Durham looks at 2016 with "2020" vision

January 2, 2020 |

No confetti and noisemakers for me this year –- I chose to let others ring in the New Year while I gently snoozed, knowing that rest would be a good idea before jumping feet-first into the mire of 2020.

For better or worse, this is going to be a tremendous year, one of the most significant for the state of our Union that we’ll ever be around to witness. And I think it’ll be better rather than worse. As a nation, we’ve reached a historical fork in the road, and when you come to a fork in the road, I say dig in and take a big bite.

Over the Christmas holidays, the only forks most of us noticed were on tables at party buffets. But while most of us were rightly focused on family, friends, food and festivities, the world kept turning and news continued being made. I wonder how much time off U.S. Attorney John Durham took for Christmas; it couldn’t have been long, as his investigation into the murky origins of the “Trump/Russia” counterintelligence probe has widened and appears to be proceeding full-speed ahead. The same goes for those relatively few members of the media who are covering him. Just before Christmas, Matthew Cole at THE INTERCEPT had a piece about the latest official to meet with Durham. In the week since, a few others in the media have passed along the story, but mostly it’s been pretty quiet.

According to Cole, Adm. Mike Rogers, who retired in 2018 after serving for four years as National Security Agency chief and head of U.S. Cyber Command, is cooperating voluntarily with Durham and has met multiple times with him. It was Rogers who, in October of 2016 (right after the first warrant to spy on Carter Page was signed), first advised the FISA court of abuse by the FBI, in the form of a National Security Agency report accusing the FBI of improperly pulling data on Americans. He also played a key role in the intel community’s assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Rogers learned that DOJ oversight personnel had determined in March of 2016 that the FBI was giving outside “contractors” access to huge amounts of raw “Section 702”’ data on Americans, well beyond what they needed to fulfill FBI requests. Not only that, but they retained their access to such information after their work for the FBI was completed. (Just wondering: What do people working in intel have to do to lose their security clearances??) When Rogers learned this, he shut down all outside-contractor access. The FISA court has since found that the Bureau violated constitutional protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

So there’s plenty that Durham might want to get into with Rogers. The substance of their meetings so far is unclear, but keep in mind that Attorney General William Barr has said that what started as a “review” is now a criminal investigation. Barr has also expressed his personal opinion that “spying” on members of Trump’s campaign did occur, a claim that sent CNN and MSNBC into histrionics and caused them to seek out every possible way to discredit him. But Barr was stating the obvious, something you’re not supposed to do when it helps Trump.

Barr, along with Durham, also publicly disagreed with IG Michael Horowitz’ assessment that he found no evidence of bias motivating the FBI in its investigation of the Trump campaign. Again, media histrionics. But, again, stating the obvious.

Mike Rogers is the first former intelligence director known to have been interviewed for Durham’s probe. He’s said to have been “very cooperative.” We don’t know if former CIA chief John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper have been interviewed yet, but I have a feeling we’d know if they’d been asked to appear, as they’re not likely to waltz in voluntarily. This would almost certainly involve subpoenas. Both Brennan and the DOJ had no comment for the story (of course, the DOJ wouldn’t be commenting on an ongoing investigation), and Clapper couldn’t be reached.

But we know Durham has already been examining Brennan’s testimony before Congress as well as his communications, focusing on what Brennan said to other officials about a work of fiction called the Steele “dossier.” Recall that Brennan clearly lied in testimony about the dossier, saying it wasn’t in the “corpus” of information the intel community used to justify the investigation. That was not true; we now know it wasn’t just IN the corpus –- it WAS the corpus. They meant it to be the whole doggone corpus delicti.

Dan Bongino, in his podcast from last Friday, provided a review of Mike Rogers’ role in the uncovering of the surveillance (SPYING) that was done against Trump’s campaign. Recall that on November 17, 2016, Rogers went to provide an unsolicited briefing to the new President-elect and his transition team in Trump Tower –- without informing DNI Director Clapper –- and that the whole transition team immediately relocated from Trump Tower to Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey. Trump famously tweeted that Trump Tower had been “wiretapped,” for which he caught a lot of unjustified grief and ridicule. Recall also that after Trump was inaugurated, he dismissed Brennan and Clapper, keeping Rogers on as NSA director.

So it’s encouraging to see that Rogers is already being interviewed and is cooperative, as he is a central witness. If you’d like a refresher on the “Trump/Russia” probe and Durham’s investigation into it, here’s Cole’s complete article…

https://theintercept.com/2019/12/20/michael-rogers-nsa-trump-russia/

One thing the Horowitz report included was Rogers’ part in the discussion of the Steele dossier and its use in the January 2017 assessment of Russia’s election interference. Then-FBI Director James Comey and then-deputy Director Andrew “Andy’s office” McCabe wanted to include information from it in that assessment (note: even though it was, in Comey’s words, “salacious and unverified”), while Rogers did not. Rogers and the NSA viewed the dossier’s “level of sourcing” with the skepticism it deserved. And while the assessment reported “high confidence” that Russia was trying to help Trump win, Rogers and the NSA diverged on that point, expressing only “moderate confidence” that Putin was specifically trying to help Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton.

Rogers has expressed in previous testimony his concern about what Russia was doing to “stir discord in the West.” In hindsight, that does seem to have been exactly Putin's plan. And I would say he’s been spectacularly successful, with help, of course, from our own media and Democrats in Congress.

Much more detail at the link…

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-durham-interviewing-former-nsa-leader-who-told-court-about-other-fisa-abuses

Also, Jeff Carlson at THE EPOCH TIMES has an interesting piece linking the FBI “outside contractor” discovery with Strzok/Page texts that appear to correspond. It also relates Rogers’ assertiveness in shutting down that operation. And there’s another name here, that of the former head of the DOJ’s National Security Devision, John Carlin, who failed (twice) to disclose to the FISA court Rogers’ compliance review concerning access by those mysterious outside “contractors,” conveniently leaving this information out of his required report on proposed “702” certifications. Soon after this, Carlin formally resigned.

Hey, think he still has his security clearance? And who WERE those “contractors,” anyway? Let’s hope Durham gets to the bottom of that, too.

NSA Director Rogers Disclosed FISA Abuse Days After Page Warrant Was Issued

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  • John Mac

    01/03/2020 10:40 AM

    Just wanted to answer your question, " What do people in the intel community have to do to lose their security clearance? " It takes an act of Congress for a person to lose their security clearance and as you can imagine, the person would have had to commit a serious offence for congress to take the time. However access to classified material can be denied for any reason or for no reason. These people who leaked or removed classified material from a secure area, should be imprisoned and should never have access to classified information. That they still have their clearance is really not the relevant question. If they still have access, then their is a serious problem and one that could cause grave damage to our country.

  • Helen Wellbrock

    01/03/2020 03:29 AM

    I just hope they dont quit until they get everyone involved charged for this fraud. I hope they have to repay the taxpayers for all of the money it cost to investigate their false charges. Thanks for keeping us informed.

  • LeAnn Kathman

    01/03/2020 01:05 AM

    Who will break first to get a deal?

  • Barbara Brace

    01/02/2020 10:03 PM

    Just thank you. Thank you always for keeping us informed and that with humor. You are such a steadying influence in these apocryphal times of upheaval.

  • Mark Livingston

    01/02/2020 08:43 PM

    Thanks for the update

  • Mike Smith

    01/02/2020 06:14 PM

    Hi Governor, I hope your New Year is starting out great.

    About those "outside contractors". I'm certainly interested in finding out if any of them might just happen to have "outside" ties to other countries. Maybe countries like RUSSIA?

  • Gail Colliet

    01/02/2020 05:15 PM

    How can Bernie Sanders get the U.S. Postal Service to contribute towards his campaign?? I heard this on Fox News today. I never would support him as candidate. I thought Federally funded government services could not contribute to campaigns? I can quit going to Walmart, Target, Starbucks... but need stamps for US Mail!! Say it isn't so.How is this possible?

  • Tim Zahn

    01/02/2020 04:36 PM

    After retiring in 2005 with a security clearance from a defense contractor, I know what's involved in protecting 'Classified Information" and the penalties involved for not doing such. Hillary and Comey should be in jail and many others in government officials for their flagrant handling of sensitive information and doing collateral damage to our country. LOCK THEM UP NOW !

  • james randolph

    01/02/2020 04:20 PM

    Hey Mike -
    Does William Barr Have the Guts? [By Michael E. Young] ... excerpt:
    "... successful prosecution also requires an unbiased jury willing to convict. The point might have been that Barr lacks a D.C. jury pool that would be eager to impugn swamp creatures..."
    ...
    [jim]
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/does_william_barr_have_the_guts.html

  • Janet Pingston

    01/02/2020 04:01 PM

    While Oliver north was declaring bin laden was the most evil man in the world. Clinton was aware and let him in New York - (before 911) documented five times. Readers Digest

  • Jerry Korba

    01/02/2020 03:46 PM

    The wheel of Justice for the Obama Mob will turn slow I hope they feel a bit uncomfortable while their time in court if there is one arrives. I want this corrupt and criminal activity to be looked at and if a court appearance is necessary get to it. Make an example of them. These people have hampered world intervention and did not help in negotiations with other countries. After 8 years of dark times with Obama this country needs to be the best it can be most of the world depends on it. People like DeBlasio and Newsome don't help narcotics being legalize to pay for liberal misuse of funds liberal illegal immigration

  • Mac Moody

    01/02/2020 03:10 PM

    You are one of the few news men that I have any confidence in whatsoever.
    I do know that you have sources of information that we at home do not. This is why I am asking you this question, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOME JAIL TIME FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT. The way that they have proceeded is in my opinion treasonous. It is WORSE than Brennan because we know he lied many times but seems like nothing but talk is the results.

  • Kay DeWitt

    01/02/2020 03:09 PM

    SIgh....I just got a headache trying to process all this info....You sure were kind to your brain to let it rest on New Year's Eve!...It's a good thing you are a spirit-filled Christian whose spirit...because it IS filled with the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit...does not allow your poor "flesh" to protest too much because of the way you drive it!.....which, of course, is WHY "It" probably not only didn't FEEL like throwing confetti, or shaking a noisemaker, but also didn't have the STRENGTH to do so!

    Or, perhaps, it's just that you are a genius and your "flesh" really ISN'T suffering that much! Either way you deserve a world of admiration for the time you put into getting at truth....which is probably the end-product of your love for Him...
    and His Word.... Who IS truth!.....Right?

  • Mary Kennedy

    01/02/2020 02:42 PM

    Thanks for the info.

  • Elaine Liming

    01/02/2020 02:39 PM

    Happy New Year. Thanks again for this summary. I hope and pray Durham does well and justice will finally be served. When I think of the tax payer's money spent on this MESS it makes me ill. We need that money to attack our growing homeless problem and mental health issues resulting from a culture that has been turned upside down. The House of Representatives have earned the title of the do nothings.

  • Janette Todd

    01/02/2020 02:29 PM

    I am so glad that Durham is going after all this "deep state" liars or whatever one can call it (betraying our country) & gets the ones, finally, guilty & put away for treason/lies & whatever else he finds. It's appalling to see all this "stuff" going on in our country which has been the best in the world. God helped the Founding Fathers & it's been a great country to live in; however, now time to clean house & get on w/right living.
    Thanks, Huck for all you write & keep us up to date. I enjoy your columns & when I can your TV show.

  • Robert L Appleton

    01/02/2020 02:28 PM

    A tangled web, for sure.

    I hope the Durham investigation is more impartial than the democrats' various investigations of Trump, which have been going on since 2016.

  • Iris Trampe

    01/02/2020 02:14 PM

    I always said, "If there is a fork in the road Always go Right.

  • Marsha Kay Farmer

    01/02/2020 02:08 PM

    I always appreciate your newsletters, I’ve learned through time you’re accurate. As for the investigation involving Durham’s meeting, I feel that we’re going to be shocked at how much dirt he does uncover. It saddens me to watch our country struggle with corruption, inside our intelligence communities along with dirty politicians, who have tried to change the course of our free democracy. Often in prayer, I’m reminded of the scriptures that teach us to pray for our leaders.
    Thank you Governor Huckabee, for always seeking truth. God bless you, Sir.

  • Cherie Athanasoulias

    01/02/2020 01:46 PM

    Great article! I have kept up with this whole, unethical, corrupt garbage. What can be done to get the media to start telling the truth?

  • Orlando J. Velez

    01/02/2020 01:31 PM

    Thank you for your reporting, Governor, which is something that I trust to be FACTUAL/TRUTHFUL based on your integrity that, at its pith and core, is directly related to your Christian faith (and I mean "Christian" in the sense that is not naïve on this, that MOST people claiming to be "Christian" … AREN'T). Be very blessed in 2020, sir!

  • James Carnine

    01/02/2020 01:24 PM

    Great piece to help give some peace about the mess that is finally being looked into because of our Great President Trump.

    The half of America who voted for Trump very much want to see justice done by uncovering this gigantic mess the Left thought they could get away with if Hillary could have served Obama's third term.

  • Dietrich Murphy

    01/02/2020 01:20 PM

    My concern is that there is only ONE prosecutor looking into the criminality of the Obama Administration. There should be an army of prosecutors investigating the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens, the Rosensteins, the Pelosis, the Schiffs, et al. They should be investigating other issues as Epstein, impeachment obstruction of justice, etc.

    The DOJ is too passivist. Trump's legal team is too passivist. Lawfare is not for passivists. America needs lawyers who will fight for the Constitution, for our president, and for the rights of all Americans.

    That is not happening now.

  • Robbie Mize

    01/02/2020 01:12 PM

    Happy New Year Gov. Huckabee......counting on you as usual to bring me the truth and unbiased reporting this year. I pray it is a year that will please our Lord and justice will prevail across the board.

  • David Wilson

    01/02/2020 12:40 PM

    The deep State just continues to be deeper Mike and it's going to take some very talented and persistent lawyers to unravel what's taken decades to build. Just imagine the mess we would be in if Hillary rodham Clinton had won the presidency! The good news is she didn't and we have a chance to unravel this systematic activity to destroy our country.