April 15, 2020
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A WASHINGTON POST “Fact-Checker” column (quotation marks deliberate), not by Glenn Kessler but by Elyse Samuels and Meg Kelly, gives “Four Pinocchios,” the worst rating for lying, to President Trump for allegedly promoting hydroxychloroquine as a “cure” for the COVID-19 (Chinese –- that's a fact) coronavirus.

Where to begin? Aside from the headline, which makes sure to include the words “false hope” (they don’t know that), I suppose we could start right up front, with the quotes in which Trump allegedly tells his overwhelming LIES about it being a cure. Huge whoppers such as, “I don’t know, it’s looking like it’s having some good results. That would be a phenomenal thing.” And “It’s this powerful drug on malaria. And there are signs that it works on this. Some very strong signs.” And of course, “What do you have to lose?” Well, there’s a hardcore sales pitch!


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Likewise, the writers’ case for dismissing hydroxychloroquine (which is being used in combination with other drugs, not alone) is that there aren't yet any clinical trials proving efficacy. But here's a FACT: those take time, and people who might die in the next 24 hours don’t want to wait for results to come in months from now., especially with the many “anecdotal” accounts of the drug’s success. That’s why Trump said, “What do you have to lose?”

There have been some small-scale trials showing promise, such as those by French doctor Didier Raoult. But the authors wave his work off as “discredited.” But how? I followed the link in the story to the journal that allegedly “discredited” the study. Here is the entirety of what it said on that subject:

“The ISAC (International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy) Board believes the article does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.”


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Does that mean the drug wasn’t shown to be effective? The WaPo writers certainly imply as much. We’ve talked about this very small study here, right after the news broke that a hydroxychloroquine “cocktail” of drugs had helped some patients in France. The news was encouraging, but very preliminary; I said at the time that it appeared to have been rushed out and that the French-to-English could have been smoother. My staff and I were as skeptical as anyone should be of the results of a preliminary study announced on Skype. But after that, there was another, larger study that supported the first, and French President Macron went to the institute where it had been conducted and reportedly received a three-hour presentation on the promising results. In light of this, it is not overselling the treatment for Trump to say there are “some very strong signs” that it works.

And there are other studies currently underway, including in South Dakota, the first state to launch one. None of this would be happening without a lot of encouraging “anecdotal” evidence.

The writers reference these studies and quote spokespeople as saying that’s it’s too early to know for sure.

But what about that growing mountain of “anecdotes” from the many people who report they believed they were about to die but quickly began recovering after receiving this treatment? One was the 96-year-old (!) father of Dr. Marc Siegel; he was quite ill before receiving the treatment but recovered in just a few days. Even a Democrat politician has credited Trump’s publicizing of the drug with saving her life. Well, ignore them all. The WaPo writers say that to a layperson, anecdotal evidence “may not sound bad, but it’s actually an insult in the scientific community,” akin to “a Yelp review.”

That assertion, in itself, is a distortion of fact. If someone cited only anecdotal evidence as “proof” of a “cure,” then, yes, that would be pseudoscience, but President Trump hasn’t claimed this. Personally, if my life were in the balance, there were no proven cure, and a few thousand Yelp reviews said “this medicine saved my life,” I would at least give it a try. And you know what? I’ll bet the authors of this hit piece masquerading as a “fact-check” would, too.

In FACT, according to a new survey by the healthcare staffing firm Jackson & Coker, 65 percent of physicians would prescribe the drug to a family member with COVID-19, and 67 percent would take it themselves. Only 11 percent said they would not use it. In other words, a vast majority of doctors are encouraged –- not insulted –- by the anecdotal evidence.

Another point they use to discredit the drug is that there can be serious side effects if not used under a doctor’s supervision. Isn’t that true of virtually all prescription drugs, which is why you need a prescription? Numerous doctors, even some cardiac specialists, have said this is one of the safest drugs on the market. (Read the list of possible side effects in the paperwork that comes with most prescriptions, and you’ll think twice before taking ANY drug.) This article even cites the very suspicious story about the man dying after deliberately swallowing fish tank cleaner containing a very different ingredient with a similar name. (Talk about relying on “anecdotal evidence” to prove your case!) Sorry, but I can’t find any example of Trump telling people to take this drug without seeing a doctor, or to ingest fish tank cleaner.

They also bring up the concern about lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients facing shortages of this drug because of the demand. I would say that if there is a demand, it’s because a lot of doctors –- repeat, doctors –- see the value in prescribing it for their COVID-19 patients. (See survey, above.) Ironically, the problem of supply vs. demand might actually be exacerbated by the tendency of politicians to “play doctor” and try to limit the use of the drug. A solution might be to go the opposite way: green-light mass production and distribution. A supply should, of course, be reserved for those patients already depending on it for maintaining their health.

The article also warns that a focus on this drug might cause researchers to “put all their eggs in one basket” and miss finding more promising treatments. On the contrary, those studies are going on as well.

Here are a few FACTS for those in the “fact-check” business who have trouble recognizing one. Trump has never called this a “cure.” He’s said he’s heard good things (so have I, so I know that’s true). He’s said what have you got to lose (if there is no other treatment, and the alternative is dying on a ventilator, that sounds pretty accurate as well.) It’s impossible to have perfect, long-term clinical trials at this stage; this is a never-before-seen virus and a treatment that’s only recently been tried. Many doctors, when faced with no alternative for a possibly terminal patient and no available clinical trials, make recommendations based on anecdotal evidence, particularly when there is a vast and growing library of it.

The authors surely know that slapping a "Four-Pinocchio" rating on Trump's comments implies to the public that they've made an ironclad case for deliberate, malicious LYING. Yet the last paragraph in particular reads more like an overly dramatic editorial than a dispassionate assessment of facts. And it is inaccurate (a LIE!!) for them to say that politicians and the media have turned this “unknown drug” into a “100 percent coronavirus cure.”

After reading through this article, I have to award Samuels and Kelly Four Pinocchios for their claim to be objective “fact-checkers.”

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  • Margaret Onnen

    04/15/2020 02:30 PM

    would you please view this video and tell me what you think?? Before you listed to his mouth, I want to apologise for the language. He does not to talk like this, but he states that Trump has tried to tell us the same thing...... again... I would like to know what you think if you don't mind.
    Thank you for researching and giving us facts and your opinion on what's going on.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoFdnZGbo8

  • mitchell fillet

    04/15/2020 02:26 PM

    Where we are is very painful..But the choices are fairly well defined.
    The mortality rate from this virus appears to be in the range of 3% to 4%.
    We have had 605,000 people infected. That number is rising but at a slower rate.
    I looks like it tops out at 1,000,000 to 1,250,000 people infected.
    Figuring out a projected mortality number is easy.
    Our economy supports 325,000,000 people.
    The ratio is overwhelming.
    While work is on-going to discover a cure and a prevention for this virus, we MUST reopen our economy. We have not heard about the bad news in the automobile business-YET . But it is terrible in that very important sector of our economy. If we are not careful, the structural damage to our economy could drive unemployment above 25%. Then we have a depression.
    It's time to go back to work.

  • Jane Terrell

    04/15/2020 02:25 PM

    Great article...... I also received an email explaining how this drug works in the body. I don’t k os who wrote it but wondered if you could do some Fact checking on it.... “In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
    There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
    Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.
    Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.
    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.
    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:
    1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others. Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
    — — — — — — — — — — — — -
    Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT). BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.
    The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.
    Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.
    The story with Hydroxychloroquine

    All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
    How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.
    No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.
    Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.
    Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
    Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
    Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
    Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
    Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.”

  • Jerry Korba

    04/15/2020 02:24 PM

    Samuels and Kelly should wear a bracelet indicating not to administer the Trump Drug if they are getting close to expiring from the China Virus. I would like that to be a bet in Vegas as to what they would do put the bracelet on or leave it off let's test the public what they think of these two brilliant fact checkers. First let them get exposed to the Virus by accident of course and let nature run its course. Offer that to the two of them who knows when people talk like they do maybe life may not be that valuable to them. Must look at the 2 sides of the coin.

  • Randy Wright

    04/15/2020 02:23 PM

    I saw those writers (not journalists) should not take the drug if they become infected. They then can be a statistic on the other side.

  • Marilyn Schnell

    04/15/2020 02:21 PM

    I know personally of someone who was given this drug because of her declining health and her symptoms. She was then tested on the upside of her recovery after having taken this relatively cheap and proven anti-malarial drug. Though she tested positive she is doing fine. I believe there is an agenda to turn people away from this, or any, inexpensive alternative in order to promote the vaccine that is going to save the world! Really? How blind, deaf, and stupid do they think we are?

  • Donna Weimer

    04/15/2020 02:08 PM

    At least with this drug you have a choice, unlike the people left in Bengahzi.

  • Barbra Cunningham

    04/15/2020 01:57 PM

    I just want to say thank you for keeping me up on true news

  • Gaye Harris

    04/15/2020 01:55 PM

    #1 - I woke up with the thought that this Covis-19 is The Lord's judgement on NY for their evil support of abortion last year. And WA (Seattle) is no Pro-Life utopia either!
    #2 - I'm looking forward to your links to watch the Huckabee Show from last week-end. Every time I tried to watch, TBN blocks it unless I donate. Really disappointing!

  • Carol Stonelake

    04/15/2020 01:52 PM

    Mike, I just saw a report on U.K. Mail that more than 80% of a Republican tax provision hidden in the Coronavirus relief act will go directly to millionaires and billionaires. Trump and Kushner and others in his inner circle also to be key beneficiaries. True or False reporting?

  • Dolores frantz

    04/15/2020 01:47 PM

    Thank you to mike Huckabee!
    Shame on Elyse and kelly!! Have those two not learned anything from this experience with the value of life! RESPECT our President and Constitutional Republic! God bless America!

  • Steven Huckey

    04/15/2020 01:43 PM

    Very well said and I agree even in these times there is
    No shame in the no journalist realm. Thank you. For clarifying .

  • Kristin Mallory

    04/15/2020 01:39 PM

    Excellent points!

  • Peg Sknner

    04/15/2020 01:32 PM

    I so Agree. I think many people have lost the ability to listen, think for themselves and make their own decisions. The so called press knows what they're going to print already, and many take opinion as truth!
    We're concerned about the degree that the China government is involved in our economy, which the virus has been able to cripple...I don't believe they have crippled most US ingenuity and determination though.

  • Linda Casagrande

    04/15/2020 01:31 PM

    Thank you! Please continue to report the truth.

  • Sandra duvall

    04/15/2020 01:30 PM

    Sounds like they are building a case for the next impeachment trial...dont lose those clips of NP and DiBlasio, Schumer exhorting people to gather and go to Chinatown or the December statements by Fauci that the virus was not serious

  • Connie Hollon

    04/15/2020 01:23 PM

    Thank you so much for bringing the truth to us. My husband, Harold Hollon, passed away on January 23, 2020, just before all this mess. He is a Korean War Veteran that served on a destroyer and was in the engine room, also called the broiler area and was exposed to asbestos from 1955 to 1959 and died with mesothelioma. I am so thankful that he went home to Jesus before all this pandemic. He always appreciated your comments and TV show. I am so sick of the Liberals and their agenda and so was he. He even commented, "I wish I was going to be around to vote for President Trump!" A true American!

  • Mark Mittelstaedt

    04/15/2020 01:18 PM

    These clowns would argue about the type of bandage to use while the patient is bleeding all over the operating table ;-}

  • Bennye St.Claire

    04/15/2020 01:11 PM

    After listening to many of the non-medical pundits give flowing reports on the malaria medication hydroxychloroquine I went to my go-to medical reference on drugs and their side effects, "Epocratise online" for a complete explanation. Here is a list of side effects that the drug has,
    Common Reactions, dizziness, ataxia, headache, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, pruritus.weight loss, hair bleaching, photosensitivity, tinnitus, vision changes. Now let's see the common reactions to a very popular drug, Asprin, here are the common reactions to this drug.
    Common Reactions, dyspepsia, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, tinnitus, dizziness, hyperuricemia, bleeding, ecchymosis, constipation, diarrhea. As you can see these two drugs have a lot in common. Also taking into consideration that both drugs have been around a very long time I see no harm in trying the malaria drug to see if it works.

  • Don Stockard

    04/15/2020 01:10 PM

    Governor Huckabee, I just wanted you know how much I appreciate your honest and newsworthy articles! I am a Tennessee native, now living in Utah since my retirement from the USAF in 1977 (a total of 20 years of active military service). Then, retired from Law Enforcement/Corrections after 17 years. Now, fully retired, doing absolutely nothing! Finally got out of a uniform!
    Sincerely,
    Don Stockard
    Roy, Utah

  • JOHN MARS

    04/15/2020 01:09 PM

    I think I speak on behalf of many Americans -- this 'virus' and other potential health threats, should have been monitors many years ago...it's reported that in 2005, President Bush said we should prepare for a pandemic -- did we? No. And what has the nation's expert, Dr. Falsey, done since 1984 to help this country. Zero! Like I've said repeatedly, Trump needs to fire Dr. Falsey, The Scarf Lady and the Surgeon General ASAP -- Trump and the rest of America have been lied to by these lazy 'experts.' I watched Fox News today and some other 'expert,' said the country will be doing social distancing for the next 2 years. Hey, FoxTV...where do you find these morons? And that holds true especially for the comical morons who appear on Tucker's show...these interviews aren't exclusive on his program, like the ones he did a few weeks ago about the homeless situation in San Francisco -- that problem isn't an exclusive, it's a FACT! The only 4 people who I can count on to tell the truth are Trump, Pence, Sean and Lara....and again, tell the
    other FoxTV 'Fox Nation' 'celeb' to just shut up...and especially the dummy woman who keeps interrupting people in the late afternoon program. And, the final course of action for this nation is this: 1. have ALL pharma meds made in the USA; 2. get out of the WHO permanently and have the US starts its own group; 3. do whatever is possible to get rid of and indict and jail Clinton, Obama, Brennan, the FBI liars, plus the ugliest people in the world, Nancy, Adam and Chuckie.
    I'm sorry that many people have lost their lives during this avoidable virus, but Trump should take measures now to make sure this doesn't happen again....the US needs to 'isolate' itself from the pathetic liars, cheaters and money hungry mongers worldwide.

  • Eugene Kissner

    04/15/2020 01:05 PM

    The anti-President Trump bias of the two reporters is obvious.
    Both should be fired and the Washington Post censured by the FCC
    for publishing false information.

  • Paul Russ

    04/15/2020 01:01 PM

    Although Boris Johnson's health care information is absolutely protected personal information (PPI), it would be of interest to as Mr. Johnson if he was treated with hydroxychloroquine during his illness, especially when it became severe enough to warrant admission to an ICU. Of course, it is his right not to respond to or answer the question.

    Which brings up a second issue. Who gets to decide which tests are required for individuals in the U.S. to resume routine activities? Isn't an "immunity ID card" an infringement on personal rights in general and a violation of HIPPA regulations in particular? The HIV epidemic settled this one. No one was required to be tested for or reveal the results of their HIV status. It transferred responsibility to exercise the precautionary principle from the infected to those potentially exposed to the infected. There should be no difference now with regard to how approach COVID-19 going forward. Based on the precedents of HIV infection, the standard has been set at "buyer beware".

  • Elizabeth Crouse

    04/15/2020 12:56 PM

    My favorite quote these day, what you sow you reap. So many lies and evil that it is unreal. Praying for the President and doing what I am suppose to be doing. Thanks

  • Edward Ernest Engle

    04/15/2020 12:56 PM

    I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of the WaPo concerning President Trump. They, along with many of the "mass media" are Never Trumpers, critiquing, isolating out of context and reporting each word he utters in the least possible light. Case in point: The mass media jumped all over President Trump because they said he said that the current pandemic would be over by Easter. What he actually said was that "Hopefully" the pandemic would be over by Easter. (What a big difference). I was surprised that they even used the Christian term "Easter" in their reporting. I keep saying that although the mass media has the legal right to publish whatever they choose, whether they know it to be true or not, they do not have the moral right to publish false, unsubstantiated or one sided "facts" when they are considered to be the "Fourth Estate" wielding such social influence. The problem is that many people on the left hang on every word they print or say, which wouldn't be so bad, except that those same people vote.

April 15, 2020
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A WASHINGTON POST “Fact-Checker” column (quotation marks deliberate), not by Glenn Kessler but by Elyse Samuels and Meg Kelly, gives “Four Pinocchios,” the worst rating for lying, to President Trump for allegedly promoting hydroxychloroquine as a “cure” for the COVID-19 (Chinese –- that's a fact) coronavirus.

Where to begin? Aside from the headline, which makes sure to include the words “false hope” (they don’t know that), I suppose we could start right up front, with the quotes in which Trump allegedly tells his overwhelming LIES about it being a cure. Huge whoppers such as, “I don’t know, it’s looking like it’s having some good results. That would be a phenomenal thing.” And “It’s this powerful drug on malaria. And there are signs that it works on this. Some very strong signs.” And of course, “What do you have to lose?” Well, there’s a hardcore sales pitch!


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Likewise, the writers’ case for dismissing hydroxychloroquine (which is being used in combination with other drugs, not alone) is that there aren't yet any clinical trials proving efficacy. But here's a FACT: those take time, and people who might die in the next 24 hours don’t want to wait for results to come in months from now., especially with the many “anecdotal” accounts of the drug’s success. That’s why Trump said, “What do you have to lose?”

There have been some small-scale trials showing promise, such as those by French doctor Didier Raoult. But the authors wave his work off as “discredited.” But how? I followed the link in the story to the journal that allegedly “discredited” the study. Here is the entirety of what it said on that subject:

“The ISAC (International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy) Board believes the article does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.”


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Does that mean the drug wasn’t shown to be effective? The WaPo writers certainly imply as much. We’ve talked about this very small study here, right after the news broke that a hydroxychloroquine “cocktail” of drugs had helped some patients in France. The news was encouraging, but very preliminary; I said at the time that it appeared to have been rushed out and that the French-to-English could have been smoother. My staff and I were as skeptical as anyone should be of the results of a preliminary study announced on Skype. But after that, there was another, larger study that supported the first, and French President Macron went to the institute where it had been conducted and reportedly received a three-hour presentation on the promising results. In light of this, it is not overselling the treatment for Trump to say there are “some very strong signs” that it works.

And there are other studies currently underway, including in South Dakota, the first state to launch one. None of this would be happening without a lot of encouraging “anecdotal” evidence.

The writers reference these studies and quote spokespeople as saying that’s it’s too early to know for sure.

But what about that growing mountain of “anecdotes” from the many people who report they believed they were about to die but quickly began recovering after receiving this treatment? One was the 96-year-old (!) father of Dr. Marc Siegel; he was quite ill before receiving the treatment but recovered in just a few days. Even a Democrat politician has credited Trump’s publicizing of the drug with saving her life. Well, ignore them all. The WaPo writers say that to a layperson, anecdotal evidence “may not sound bad, but it’s actually an insult in the scientific community,” akin to “a Yelp review.”

That assertion, in itself, is a distortion of fact. If someone cited only anecdotal evidence as “proof” of a “cure,” then, yes, that would be pseudoscience, but President Trump hasn’t claimed this. Personally, if my life were in the balance, there were no proven cure, and a few thousand Yelp reviews said “this medicine saved my life,” I would at least give it a try. And you know what? I’ll bet the authors of this hit piece masquerading as a “fact-check” would, too.

In FACT, according to a new survey by the healthcare staffing firm Jackson & Coker, 65 percent of physicians would prescribe the drug to a family member with COVID-19, and 67 percent would take it themselves. Only 11 percent said they would not use it. In other words, a vast majority of doctors are encouraged –- not insulted –- by the anecdotal evidence.

Another point they use to discredit the drug is that there can be serious side effects if not used under a doctor’s supervision. Isn’t that true of virtually all prescription drugs, which is why you need a prescription? Numerous doctors, even some cardiac specialists, have said this is one of the safest drugs on the market. (Read the list of possible side effects in the paperwork that comes with most prescriptions, and you’ll think twice before taking ANY drug.) This article even cites the very suspicious story about the man dying after deliberately swallowing fish tank cleaner containing a very different ingredient with a similar name. (Talk about relying on “anecdotal evidence” to prove your case!) Sorry, but I can’t find any example of Trump telling people to take this drug without seeing a doctor, or to ingest fish tank cleaner.

They also bring up the concern about lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients facing shortages of this drug because of the demand. I would say that if there is a demand, it’s because a lot of doctors –- repeat, doctors –- see the value in prescribing it for their COVID-19 patients. (See survey, above.) Ironically, the problem of supply vs. demand might actually be exacerbated by the tendency of politicians to “play doctor” and try to limit the use of the drug. A solution might be to go the opposite way: green-light mass production and distribution. A supply should, of course, be reserved for those patients already depending on it for maintaining their health.

The article also warns that a focus on this drug might cause researchers to “put all their eggs in one basket” and miss finding more promising treatments. On the contrary, those studies are going on as well.

Here are a few FACTS for those in the “fact-check” business who have trouble recognizing one. Trump has never called this a “cure.” He’s said he’s heard good things (so have I, so I know that’s true). He’s said what have you got to lose (if there is no other treatment, and the alternative is dying on a ventilator, that sounds pretty accurate as well.) It’s impossible to have perfect, long-term clinical trials at this stage; this is a never-before-seen virus and a treatment that’s only recently been tried. Many doctors, when faced with no alternative for a possibly terminal patient and no available clinical trials, make recommendations based on anecdotal evidence, particularly when there is a vast and growing library of it.

The authors surely know that slapping a "Four-Pinocchio" rating on Trump's comments implies to the public that they've made an ironclad case for deliberate, malicious LYING. Yet the last paragraph in particular reads more like an overly dramatic editorial than a dispassionate assessment of facts. And it is inaccurate (a LIE!!) for them to say that politicians and the media have turned this “unknown drug” into a “100 percent coronavirus cure.”

After reading through this article, I have to award Samuels and Kelly Four Pinocchios for their claim to be objective “fact-checkers.”

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  • Margaret Onnen

    04/15/2020 02:30 PM

    would you please view this video and tell me what you think?? Before you listed to his mouth, I want to apologise for the language. He does not to talk like this, but he states that Trump has tried to tell us the same thing...... again... I would like to know what you think if you don't mind.
    Thank you for researching and giving us facts and your opinion on what's going on.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoFdnZGbo8

  • mitchell fillet

    04/15/2020 02:26 PM

    Where we are is very painful..But the choices are fairly well defined.
    The mortality rate from this virus appears to be in the range of 3% to 4%.
    We have had 605,000 people infected. That number is rising but at a slower rate.
    I looks like it tops out at 1,000,000 to 1,250,000 people infected.
    Figuring out a projected mortality number is easy.
    Our economy supports 325,000,000 people.
    The ratio is overwhelming.
    While work is on-going to discover a cure and a prevention for this virus, we MUST reopen our economy. We have not heard about the bad news in the automobile business-YET . But it is terrible in that very important sector of our economy. If we are not careful, the structural damage to our economy could drive unemployment above 25%. Then we have a depression.
    It's time to go back to work.

  • Jane Terrell

    04/15/2020 02:25 PM

    Great article...... I also received an email explaining how this drug works in the body. I don’t k os who wrote it but wondered if you could do some Fact checking on it.... “In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
    There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
    Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.
    Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.
    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.
    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:
    1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others. Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
    — — — — — — — — — — — — -
    Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT). BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.
    The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.
    Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.
    The story with Hydroxychloroquine

    All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
    How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.
    No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.
    Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.
    Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
    Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
    Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
    Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
    Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.”

  • Jerry Korba

    04/15/2020 02:24 PM

    Samuels and Kelly should wear a bracelet indicating not to administer the Trump Drug if they are getting close to expiring from the China Virus. I would like that to be a bet in Vegas as to what they would do put the bracelet on or leave it off let's test the public what they think of these two brilliant fact checkers. First let them get exposed to the Virus by accident of course and let nature run its course. Offer that to the two of them who knows when people talk like they do maybe life may not be that valuable to them. Must look at the 2 sides of the coin.

  • Randy Wright

    04/15/2020 02:23 PM

    I saw those writers (not journalists) should not take the drug if they become infected. They then can be a statistic on the other side.

  • Marilyn Schnell

    04/15/2020 02:21 PM

    I know personally of someone who was given this drug because of her declining health and her symptoms. She was then tested on the upside of her recovery after having taken this relatively cheap and proven anti-malarial drug. Though she tested positive she is doing fine. I believe there is an agenda to turn people away from this, or any, inexpensive alternative in order to promote the vaccine that is going to save the world! Really? How blind, deaf, and stupid do they think we are?

  • Donna Weimer

    04/15/2020 02:08 PM

    At least with this drug you have a choice, unlike the people left in Bengahzi.

  • Barbra Cunningham

    04/15/2020 01:57 PM

    I just want to say thank you for keeping me up on true news

  • Gaye Harris

    04/15/2020 01:55 PM

    #1 - I woke up with the thought that this Covis-19 is The Lord's judgement on NY for their evil support of abortion last year. And WA (Seattle) is no Pro-Life utopia either!
    #2 - I'm looking forward to your links to watch the Huckabee Show from last week-end. Every time I tried to watch, TBN blocks it unless I donate. Really disappointing!

  • Carol Stonelake

    04/15/2020 01:52 PM

    Mike, I just saw a report on U.K. Mail that more than 80% of a Republican tax provision hidden in the Coronavirus relief act will go directly to millionaires and billionaires. Trump and Kushner and others in his inner circle also to be key beneficiaries. True or False reporting?

  • Dolores frantz

    04/15/2020 01:47 PM

    Thank you to mike Huckabee!
    Shame on Elyse and kelly!! Have those two not learned anything from this experience with the value of life! RESPECT our President and Constitutional Republic! God bless America!

  • Steven Huckey

    04/15/2020 01:43 PM

    Very well said and I agree even in these times there is
    No shame in the no journalist realm. Thank you. For clarifying .

  • Kristin Mallory

    04/15/2020 01:39 PM

    Excellent points!

  • Peg Sknner

    04/15/2020 01:32 PM

    I so Agree. I think many people have lost the ability to listen, think for themselves and make their own decisions. The so called press knows what they're going to print already, and many take opinion as truth!
    We're concerned about the degree that the China government is involved in our economy, which the virus has been able to cripple...I don't believe they have crippled most US ingenuity and determination though.

  • Linda Casagrande

    04/15/2020 01:31 PM

    Thank you! Please continue to report the truth.

  • Sandra duvall

    04/15/2020 01:30 PM

    Sounds like they are building a case for the next impeachment trial...dont lose those clips of NP and DiBlasio, Schumer exhorting people to gather and go to Chinatown or the December statements by Fauci that the virus was not serious

  • Connie Hollon

    04/15/2020 01:23 PM

    Thank you so much for bringing the truth to us. My husband, Harold Hollon, passed away on January 23, 2020, just before all this mess. He is a Korean War Veteran that served on a destroyer and was in the engine room, also called the broiler area and was exposed to asbestos from 1955 to 1959 and died with mesothelioma. I am so thankful that he went home to Jesus before all this pandemic. He always appreciated your comments and TV show. I am so sick of the Liberals and their agenda and so was he. He even commented, "I wish I was going to be around to vote for President Trump!" A true American!

  • Mark Mittelstaedt

    04/15/2020 01:18 PM

    These clowns would argue about the type of bandage to use while the patient is bleeding all over the operating table ;-}

  • Bennye St.Claire

    04/15/2020 01:11 PM

    After listening to many of the non-medical pundits give flowing reports on the malaria medication hydroxychloroquine I went to my go-to medical reference on drugs and their side effects, "Epocratise online" for a complete explanation. Here is a list of side effects that the drug has,
    Common Reactions, dizziness, ataxia, headache, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, pruritus.weight loss, hair bleaching, photosensitivity, tinnitus, vision changes. Now let's see the common reactions to a very popular drug, Asprin, here are the common reactions to this drug.
    Common Reactions, dyspepsia, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, tinnitus, dizziness, hyperuricemia, bleeding, ecchymosis, constipation, diarrhea. As you can see these two drugs have a lot in common. Also taking into consideration that both drugs have been around a very long time I see no harm in trying the malaria drug to see if it works.

  • Don Stockard

    04/15/2020 01:10 PM

    Governor Huckabee, I just wanted you know how much I appreciate your honest and newsworthy articles! I am a Tennessee native, now living in Utah since my retirement from the USAF in 1977 (a total of 20 years of active military service). Then, retired from Law Enforcement/Corrections after 17 years. Now, fully retired, doing absolutely nothing! Finally got out of a uniform!
    Sincerely,
    Don Stockard
    Roy, Utah

  • JOHN MARS

    04/15/2020 01:09 PM

    I think I speak on behalf of many Americans -- this 'virus' and other potential health threats, should have been monitors many years ago...it's reported that in 2005, President Bush said we should prepare for a pandemic -- did we? No. And what has the nation's expert, Dr. Falsey, done since 1984 to help this country. Zero! Like I've said repeatedly, Trump needs to fire Dr. Falsey, The Scarf Lady and the Surgeon General ASAP -- Trump and the rest of America have been lied to by these lazy 'experts.' I watched Fox News today and some other 'expert,' said the country will be doing social distancing for the next 2 years. Hey, FoxTV...where do you find these morons? And that holds true especially for the comical morons who appear on Tucker's show...these interviews aren't exclusive on his program, like the ones he did a few weeks ago about the homeless situation in San Francisco -- that problem isn't an exclusive, it's a FACT! The only 4 people who I can count on to tell the truth are Trump, Pence, Sean and Lara....and again, tell the
    other FoxTV 'Fox Nation' 'celeb' to just shut up...and especially the dummy woman who keeps interrupting people in the late afternoon program. And, the final course of action for this nation is this: 1. have ALL pharma meds made in the USA; 2. get out of the WHO permanently and have the US starts its own group; 3. do whatever is possible to get rid of and indict and jail Clinton, Obama, Brennan, the FBI liars, plus the ugliest people in the world, Nancy, Adam and Chuckie.
    I'm sorry that many people have lost their lives during this avoidable virus, but Trump should take measures now to make sure this doesn't happen again....the US needs to 'isolate' itself from the pathetic liars, cheaters and money hungry mongers worldwide.

  • Eugene Kissner

    04/15/2020 01:05 PM

    The anti-President Trump bias of the two reporters is obvious.
    Both should be fired and the Washington Post censured by the FCC
    for publishing false information.

  • Paul Russ

    04/15/2020 01:01 PM

    Although Boris Johnson's health care information is absolutely protected personal information (PPI), it would be of interest to as Mr. Johnson if he was treated with hydroxychloroquine during his illness, especially when it became severe enough to warrant admission to an ICU. Of course, it is his right not to respond to or answer the question.

    Which brings up a second issue. Who gets to decide which tests are required for individuals in the U.S. to resume routine activities? Isn't an "immunity ID card" an infringement on personal rights in general and a violation of HIPPA regulations in particular? The HIV epidemic settled this one. No one was required to be tested for or reveal the results of their HIV status. It transferred responsibility to exercise the precautionary principle from the infected to those potentially exposed to the infected. There should be no difference now with regard to how approach COVID-19 going forward. Based on the precedents of HIV infection, the standard has been set at "buyer beware".

  • Elizabeth Crouse

    04/15/2020 12:56 PM

    My favorite quote these day, what you sow you reap. So many lies and evil that it is unreal. Praying for the President and doing what I am suppose to be doing. Thanks

  • Edward Ernest Engle

    04/15/2020 12:56 PM

    I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of the WaPo concerning President Trump. They, along with many of the "mass media" are Never Trumpers, critiquing, isolating out of context and reporting each word he utters in the least possible light. Case in point: The mass media jumped all over President Trump because they said he said that the current pandemic would be over by Easter. What he actually said was that "Hopefully" the pandemic would be over by Easter. (What a big difference). I was surprised that they even used the Christian term "Easter" in their reporting. I keep saying that although the mass media has the legal right to publish whatever they choose, whether they know it to be true or not, they do not have the moral right to publish false, unsubstantiated or one sided "facts" when they are considered to be the "Fourth Estate" wielding such social influence. The problem is that many people on the left hang on every word they print or say, which wouldn't be so bad, except that those same people vote.