The WASHINGTON EXAMINER has some good sources inside Adam Schiff’s hearing room, so we’re getting an idea of what has been going on in there. What a travesty. It’s easy to see why Democrats aren’t allowing it to take place in public, let alone with video cameras, as Schiff's strongarm tactics for getting the testimony he wants are on full display.

This is particularly the case for former U.S. Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker in his testimony on October 4.

In her report the day of the hearing, which took place in a secure room in the U.S. Capitol, Susan Ferrechio said that “sources familiar with Volker’s testimony” told her that the former diplomat “repeatedly” rejected assertions by Schiff that Trump was pushing for a quid pro quo in his July 25 phone call with President Zelensky: Look, you investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and we’ll give you aid. The source said that Volker testified that the Americans never raised the issue and that the Ukrainians never felt pressure.

Of course, that didn’t stop Democrats from leaking selected and highly misleading text messages to make it look as though we were withholding security aid to get help with a political campaign, and it certainly didn’t stop fatuous California Rep. Eric Swalwell from running to microphones that very day and saying. “We saw further evidence that there was a shadow shakedown going on, and the lead deputy for the President was Rudy Giuliani.” He added that the testimony provided “more and more evidence” that Trump used the power of his office to “leverage help from an ally” to benefit him politically.

My goodness, that sounds serious.

But not so fast. As Volker had said in his opening statement, the Ukrainians asked HIM to put them in contact with Giuliani, not vice versa. And Mark Meadows said after the hearing, “There was definitely no quid pro quo, and it was asked 20 different times. The American people need to see the transcripts.” Well, we haven’t seen the transcripts in the days following the interview, but we do have the next best thing: an apparent leak of them to Byron York. And from this material, we know not only the words of Volker’s testimony –- there appears to have been no shakedown whatsoever –- but also the sleazy strategy being tried by Schiff to elicit the response he wants.

York’s report from Wednesday shows just how hard Schiff was trying to get Volker to say that the Ukrainians felt pressured by Trump to investigate the Bidens, specifically through the withholding of U.S. military aid. He kept asking the question in different ways, and Volker kept denying it in different ways. As it turns out, Volker didn’t even know that Trump had mentioned the Bidens during the call until the transcript of that conversation was released on September 25. He couldn’t deny that they felt pressured, of course; he could speak only for himself, but he had never been told anything about that, and he maintained that if they had, they would have brought it up with him. To his knowledge, the Ukrainians were not aware at that time that the aid had been suspended. And he said his first discussions of the issue with any Ukrainian official was on August 28 and 29, well after the July 25 phone call. He himself learned of it on July 18, one week before the phone call. He wondered about it but didn’t learn the reason for it.

His testimony was clear and specific: “The first conversation I had was when the diplomatic adviser to President Zelensky, Vadym Pristaico, I believe it was, texted me a copy of the POLITICO article about the hold on assistance. So I had had many conversations in the months prior to that, and this did not come up from him to me, which makes me believe that this was not on his radar until that time when he saw the article.”

That wasn’t good enough for Schiff, who is clearly a man on a mission. (Call it MISSION: IMPEACHABLE.)  When he didn’t get the testimony he wanted right off the bat, his strategy was first to gain Volker’s agreement on a general statement, asking Volker to agree that “no President of the United States should ever ask a foreign leader to help intervene in a U.S. election.”

“I agree with that,” Volker said.

Then Schiff led his witness into a hypothetical scenario, asking, “And that would be particularly egregious if it was done in the context of withholding foreign assistance?” 

Volker didn’t let himself be drawn into a hypothetical, saying. “We’re getting now into, you know, a conflation of these things that I didn’t think was actually there.

Dead end for Schiff! So, again, he asked another general question, asking him to agree that “if it’s inappropriate for a President to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a President was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country.”

Again –- and surely to Schiff’s dismay –- Volker refused to be drawn into a hypothetical and kept to the specifics of his own experience. “I can’t really speak to that,” he said. “My understanding of the security assistance issue is---”

Schiff cut him off and pressed him to answer. “Why can’t you speak to that, ambassador? You’re a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a President would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand how significant that would be, correct?”

Remember that Volker had already testified that to his knowledge, the Ukrainians weren’t yet aware that the aid had been withheld. He sort-of played along, saying, “I can understand how that would be significant.”

So Schiff sensed an opening and tried to blur the timeline: “And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the President had asked of them, wouldn’t it?”

Volker had already testified that as far as he was aware, they DIDN’T know. He tried again to make his point, beginning “So again, congressman, I don’t believe---” but was cut off again by Schiff.

“It’s a pretty straightforward question,” Schiff said.

“But I don’t believe the Ukrainians were aware of the assistance being held up---” Volker said, interrupted once again by Schiff.

“They became aware of it.”

“They became aware later, but I don’t believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied.”

You get the idea. There was much more of this volleying back and forth, with Schiff trying every which way to get Volker to go along with his made-up scenario. Volker never did. Clearly, his testimony did not support the point Schiff wanted to establish –- because Schiff was pushing a scenario that NEVER HAPPENED –- but that didn’t stop Schiff from relentlessly pursuing a flawed theory and for Swalwell to run to the microphones afterwards to do what he does best: lie.

 

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  • Valerie Tarantolo

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    I really enjoy your page. I must tell you I have serious reservations about the future of America, all the tactics used by Schiff , Pelosi et. al reeks of Nazi Germany leading up to WW11 also of what Stalin did. The corruption is rife in the government. Why are the Reps such weaklings, and why is no one in jail?
    With Respect

  • Jim Simpson

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    Gov. --The reason Congressman Shifty and the Speaker want this stuff (meetings) in secret -- to quote Forrest Gump -- Stupid is as stupid does Sir! They don't want us to see stupid.

    Questions of the day: These politicos in Congress and the Senate took an oath to "defend the United States from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC." and defend and protect the Constitution.So help them God. If I recall. I know I swore to something very similar when I went in the U.S. Air Force.

    What is the point? ln plan sourthern english -- "they aint getting their job done." I strongly believe-- no, make that I know by their deeds--these folks are determined to destroy the Constitution, impeach a duly elected President of the United States, and make this country a Socialist Republic. Therefore these people are subverting their oath of office and if anyone is committing treason--- they are. They are the domestic THREAT. Not only that, they are getting nothing accomplished (solving the real problems of the country) for which they were elected.

    My real question is where is the DOJ? Why is charges of obstruction not being applied to everyone of these people in Congress? They are not fulfilling the oath of office they took. Why are charges not being made?

    What are we paying these people for?

    Count us sick and tired of this mess. Anyone else? No integrity in this government anymore. Thanks for letting us opine.

  • Diane Rowlands

    10/17/2019 11:58 AM

    I think the executive branch should go to court to get this nonsense overwith. The Dems should not be allowed to do this.

  • Joe Broadway

    10/17/2019 11:49 AM

    Schiff acts like a Auburn fan.??

  • William Schlumpf

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    I'm sorry but I just can't take characters like Schiff, Pelosi Swallwell, et al., seriously. They are bungling buffoons reminiscent of bad 60's TV comedy. The only thing missing is the German accents and the vulture dominating the earth insignia of KAOS in the background. No matter how hard they try these dopes just can't GET TRUMP.

  • Thaddeus Mazur

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    The chickens are now coming home to roost.
    What goes around comes around. All the lies he spoke outside the protection of the House are now going to bite him in the a$$.
    I can see the president and his lawyer both suing Schiff’ and the Democratic office even after Schiff is charged with Treason ..... for no other reason than to bankrupt the traitor and leave him destitute in prison.
    Ain’t Karma a Bitch.

  • rodney burke

    10/17/2019 11:26 AM

    this is so beyond sleeze I don't know if there is a word for it. This Ass should be thrown down the steps of congress, headlong. He isn't FIT to be in congress and it is apparent he doesn't represent anyone but him.. Looks like Gestapo or KGB tactics and not a hearing,. Deep state in action.

  • Nancy Bowman

    10/17/2019 11:22 AM

    They, the democrates, push till they receive the answer they are looking for. Why can't they stop this nonsense. This is such a farce!!

  • Joe Wilkerson

    10/17/2019 11:20 AM

    Schiff is blinded by his hate for Pres. Trump and his quest for trying to take down the pres. just as every dem. was/is still trying to take the NRA down. The NRA is now on the back burner thanks to Pres. Trump being moved to the front burner. Schiff along with Nadler and Pelosi are some of the most worthless people in congress. They are leeches trying to suck the presence of the microphone away anyway they can like the odor from a spoiled egg.

  • Judy Pevonka

    10/17/2019 11:19 AM

    You have spoken to the President; how do he and his family hold up with all this mud slinging and digging; they are digging for something to impeach him on; there is NOTHING that I can see; and what a farce the meeting in the White House with Pelosi, Schumer and Stenhouse walking out; these people are a JOKE!! How is all of this legal? The unhinged Democraps are making us a laughing stock to other countries. Pray, pray and pray. Thank you for giving us clarity on these issues; and I thank Sarah for remaining true to our President!

  • Kathy Hill Derusha

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Why in the world hasn't someone STOPPED Schiff....knowing he has lied and misled the public over and over again. WHY would this guy be in charge of ANYTHING?

  • Daniel Stepp

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Mr Schiff is unworthy of the position he has in Congress. Clearly he wants his choice not the people's choice and certainly has no respect for truth. What a horrible experience for Mr Volker.

  • Lance E Brown

    10/17/2019 11:16 AM

    Oh My GAWD
    watching the morning news and it is all about one death, rest in peace, and Nancy P. seems Nancy had a go at Trump and didn't get what she was looking for! she immediately jumped in front of a camera and declared that Trump lost it. then we get to see the imagery, one still photo, of Nancy coming UNHINGED in the presents of the president. seems to me that we have laws against that sort of threatening behavior. But what is the story from the MSM ?? they put it all on Trump. two things to say hear. 1.) It takes two to tango. 2.) Skunk smells it's own Oder 1st! Nancy Lost it!

  • Robbie Mize

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    I still do not understand how they are getting away with this behind closed doors. All the more proof to me that the swamp is so deep and they have much to hide from the people. The hold these so called hearings but appears to me on what you are finding out that they really are not hearing, they are only questioning and providing their own answers. And then lie about them if it doesn't suit their narrative.

  • Susan K

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    When is Adam Schiff going to have to answer for his abominable behavior as a congressman? He needs to be questioned about his unacceptable tactics in front of the American people! This sleazeball should be removed from office now. Why is he getting away with this?!

  • Michael Smith

    10/17/2019 11:11 AM

    The Democratic CONGRESS are liars, CHEATS AND thieves, Mike. There are very few honest, ethical DEMS in Congress!

  • Jerry Korba

    10/17/2019 11:05 AM

    When hate is what powers one to complete a task desperate attempts usually become part of the haters tools. When you are desperate one will go beyond the facts and the truth usually if you are up against an intelligent person more so than the hater the hater will lose. In this was case Volker is like a cat playing with a mouse. Schiff armed with all the tools backroom, close door. secret meeting, hot lights, Volker tied to a chair Schiff using the torture of water dripping on Volker forehead for hours on end; OK maybe just being with Schiff and Swalwells seems like that is happening the 2 of them are miserable little rats under any circumstance normal people would treat them like the plague avoid them at all costs yea they are that miserable. For a moment you are a decent Human being and you get put on trial and you have Swalwells Schiff Pelosi Schumer Booker Harris Bluemethal rodents like that lecturing you for 10 hours for a crime you didn't commit I myself could not take them seriously I would play them like the mice they are.

  • Jane F Mitchell

    10/17/2019 10:58 AM

    Why is this allowed to go on? Can't AG Barr stop this? It is horrible and so dishonest. I just don't get why they are allowed to do this.

  • Wallace Sisk

    10/17/2019 10:56 AM

    Don’t know why these are not open to public or at least transcripts provided after each hearing - why can’t Republicans shut this guy down? What Schiff is doing should be illegal

  • Linda Springer

    10/17/2019 10:45 AM

    I believe the Republicans should stay out of there, refuse to be drawn into this total sham. It's time to stand up against this insanity.

  • Frank Manthey MD

    10/17/2019 10:43 AM

    The comments by Schiff are sufficiently & derogatory that he should be summarily censured if not impeached as a result of his interruptions in the sessions that have been witnessed by others attending yesterdays congressional sessions.

  • Brad

    10/17/2019 10:38 AM

    Wake me when it's over! ??

  • Cindy Collins

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    When will it end. This witch hunt is awful. I keep praying that people will see what is going and see the light.

  • Stephen Russell

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    But that same meeting blocked Rep Gaetz from attending event, Check verification, Bad optics

The WASHINGTON EXAMINER has some good sources inside Adam Schiff’s hearing room, so we’re getting an idea of what has been going on in there. What a travesty. It’s easy to see why Democrats aren’t allowing it to take place in public, let alone with video cameras, as Schiff's strongarm tactics for getting the testimony he wants are on full display.

This is particularly the case for former U.S. Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker in his testimony on October 4.

In her report the day of the hearing, which took place in a secure room in the U.S. Capitol, Susan Ferrechio said that “sources familiar with Volker’s testimony” told her that the former diplomat “repeatedly” rejected assertions by Schiff that Trump was pushing for a quid pro quo in his July 25 phone call with President Zelensky: Look, you investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and we’ll give you aid. The source said that Volker testified that the Americans never raised the issue and that the Ukrainians never felt pressure.

Of course, that didn’t stop Democrats from leaking selected and highly misleading text messages to make it look as though we were withholding security aid to get help with a political campaign, and it certainly didn’t stop fatuous California Rep. Eric Swalwell from running to microphones that very day and saying. “We saw further evidence that there was a shadow shakedown going on, and the lead deputy for the President was Rudy Giuliani.” He added that the testimony provided “more and more evidence” that Trump used the power of his office to “leverage help from an ally” to benefit him politically.

My goodness, that sounds serious.

But not so fast. As Volker had said in his opening statement, the Ukrainians asked HIM to put them in contact with Giuliani, not vice versa. And Mark Meadows said after the hearing, “There was definitely no quid pro quo, and it was asked 20 different times. The American people need to see the transcripts.” Well, we haven’t seen the transcripts in the days following the interview, but we do have the next best thing: an apparent leak of them to Byron York. And from this material, we know not only the words of Volker’s testimony –- there appears to have been no shakedown whatsoever –- but also the sleazy strategy being tried by Schiff to elicit the response he wants.

York’s report from Wednesday shows just how hard Schiff was trying to get Volker to say that the Ukrainians felt pressured by Trump to investigate the Bidens, specifically through the withholding of U.S. military aid. He kept asking the question in different ways, and Volker kept denying it in different ways. As it turns out, Volker didn’t even know that Trump had mentioned the Bidens during the call until the transcript of that conversation was released on September 25. He couldn’t deny that they felt pressured, of course; he could speak only for himself, but he had never been told anything about that, and he maintained that if they had, they would have brought it up with him. To his knowledge, the Ukrainians were not aware at that time that the aid had been suspended. And he said his first discussions of the issue with any Ukrainian official was on August 28 and 29, well after the July 25 phone call. He himself learned of it on July 18, one week before the phone call. He wondered about it but didn’t learn the reason for it.

His testimony was clear and specific: “The first conversation I had was when the diplomatic adviser to President Zelensky, Vadym Pristaico, I believe it was, texted me a copy of the POLITICO article about the hold on assistance. So I had had many conversations in the months prior to that, and this did not come up from him to me, which makes me believe that this was not on his radar until that time when he saw the article.”

That wasn’t good enough for Schiff, who is clearly a man on a mission. (Call it MISSION: IMPEACHABLE.)  When he didn’t get the testimony he wanted right off the bat, his strategy was first to gain Volker’s agreement on a general statement, asking Volker to agree that “no President of the United States should ever ask a foreign leader to help intervene in a U.S. election.”

“I agree with that,” Volker said.

Then Schiff led his witness into a hypothetical scenario, asking, “And that would be particularly egregious if it was done in the context of withholding foreign assistance?” 

Volker didn’t let himself be drawn into a hypothetical, saying. “We’re getting now into, you know, a conflation of these things that I didn’t think was actually there.

Dead end for Schiff! So, again, he asked another general question, asking him to agree that “if it’s inappropriate for a President to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a President was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country.”

Again –- and surely to Schiff’s dismay –- Volker refused to be drawn into a hypothetical and kept to the specifics of his own experience. “I can’t really speak to that,” he said. “My understanding of the security assistance issue is---”

Schiff cut him off and pressed him to answer. “Why can’t you speak to that, ambassador? You’re a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a President would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand how significant that would be, correct?”

Remember that Volker had already testified that to his knowledge, the Ukrainians weren’t yet aware that the aid had been withheld. He sort-of played along, saying, “I can understand how that would be significant.”

So Schiff sensed an opening and tried to blur the timeline: “And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the President had asked of them, wouldn’t it?”

Volker had already testified that as far as he was aware, they DIDN’T know. He tried again to make his point, beginning “So again, congressman, I don’t believe---” but was cut off again by Schiff.

“It’s a pretty straightforward question,” Schiff said.

“But I don’t believe the Ukrainians were aware of the assistance being held up---” Volker said, interrupted once again by Schiff.

“They became aware of it.”

“They became aware later, but I don’t believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied.”

You get the idea. There was much more of this volleying back and forth, with Schiff trying every which way to get Volker to go along with his made-up scenario. Volker never did. Clearly, his testimony did not support the point Schiff wanted to establish –- because Schiff was pushing a scenario that NEVER HAPPENED –- but that didn’t stop Schiff from relentlessly pursuing a flawed theory and for Swalwell to run to the microphones afterwards to do what he does best: lie.

 

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Comments 26-49 of 49

  • Valerie Tarantolo

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    I really enjoy your page. I must tell you I have serious reservations about the future of America, all the tactics used by Schiff , Pelosi et. al reeks of Nazi Germany leading up to WW11 also of what Stalin did. The corruption is rife in the government. Why are the Reps such weaklings, and why is no one in jail?
    With Respect

  • Jim Simpson

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    Gov. --The reason Congressman Shifty and the Speaker want this stuff (meetings) in secret -- to quote Forrest Gump -- Stupid is as stupid does Sir! They don't want us to see stupid.

    Questions of the day: These politicos in Congress and the Senate took an oath to "defend the United States from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC." and defend and protect the Constitution.So help them God. If I recall. I know I swore to something very similar when I went in the U.S. Air Force.

    What is the point? ln plan sourthern english -- "they aint getting their job done." I strongly believe-- no, make that I know by their deeds--these folks are determined to destroy the Constitution, impeach a duly elected President of the United States, and make this country a Socialist Republic. Therefore these people are subverting their oath of office and if anyone is committing treason--- they are. They are the domestic THREAT. Not only that, they are getting nothing accomplished (solving the real problems of the country) for which they were elected.

    My real question is where is the DOJ? Why is charges of obstruction not being applied to everyone of these people in Congress? They are not fulfilling the oath of office they took. Why are charges not being made?

    What are we paying these people for?

    Count us sick and tired of this mess. Anyone else? No integrity in this government anymore. Thanks for letting us opine.

  • Diane Rowlands

    10/17/2019 11:58 AM

    I think the executive branch should go to court to get this nonsense overwith. The Dems should not be allowed to do this.

  • Joe Broadway

    10/17/2019 11:49 AM

    Schiff acts like a Auburn fan.??

  • William Schlumpf

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    I'm sorry but I just can't take characters like Schiff, Pelosi Swallwell, et al., seriously. They are bungling buffoons reminiscent of bad 60's TV comedy. The only thing missing is the German accents and the vulture dominating the earth insignia of KAOS in the background. No matter how hard they try these dopes just can't GET TRUMP.

  • Thaddeus Mazur

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    The chickens are now coming home to roost.
    What goes around comes around. All the lies he spoke outside the protection of the House are now going to bite him in the a$$.
    I can see the president and his lawyer both suing Schiff’ and the Democratic office even after Schiff is charged with Treason ..... for no other reason than to bankrupt the traitor and leave him destitute in prison.
    Ain’t Karma a Bitch.

  • rodney burke

    10/17/2019 11:26 AM

    this is so beyond sleeze I don't know if there is a word for it. This Ass should be thrown down the steps of congress, headlong. He isn't FIT to be in congress and it is apparent he doesn't represent anyone but him.. Looks like Gestapo or KGB tactics and not a hearing,. Deep state in action.

  • Nancy Bowman

    10/17/2019 11:22 AM

    They, the democrates, push till they receive the answer they are looking for. Why can't they stop this nonsense. This is such a farce!!

  • Joe Wilkerson

    10/17/2019 11:20 AM

    Schiff is blinded by his hate for Pres. Trump and his quest for trying to take down the pres. just as every dem. was/is still trying to take the NRA down. The NRA is now on the back burner thanks to Pres. Trump being moved to the front burner. Schiff along with Nadler and Pelosi are some of the most worthless people in congress. They are leeches trying to suck the presence of the microphone away anyway they can like the odor from a spoiled egg.

  • Judy Pevonka

    10/17/2019 11:19 AM

    You have spoken to the President; how do he and his family hold up with all this mud slinging and digging; they are digging for something to impeach him on; there is NOTHING that I can see; and what a farce the meeting in the White House with Pelosi, Schumer and Stenhouse walking out; these people are a JOKE!! How is all of this legal? The unhinged Democraps are making us a laughing stock to other countries. Pray, pray and pray. Thank you for giving us clarity on these issues; and I thank Sarah for remaining true to our President!

  • Kathy Hill Derusha

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Why in the world hasn't someone STOPPED Schiff....knowing he has lied and misled the public over and over again. WHY would this guy be in charge of ANYTHING?

  • Daniel Stepp

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Mr Schiff is unworthy of the position he has in Congress. Clearly he wants his choice not the people's choice and certainly has no respect for truth. What a horrible experience for Mr Volker.

  • Lance E Brown

    10/17/2019 11:16 AM

    Oh My GAWD
    watching the morning news and it is all about one death, rest in peace, and Nancy P. seems Nancy had a go at Trump and didn't get what she was looking for! she immediately jumped in front of a camera and declared that Trump lost it. then we get to see the imagery, one still photo, of Nancy coming UNHINGED in the presents of the president. seems to me that we have laws against that sort of threatening behavior. But what is the story from the MSM ?? they put it all on Trump. two things to say hear. 1.) It takes two to tango. 2.) Skunk smells it's own Oder 1st! Nancy Lost it!

  • Robbie Mize

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    I still do not understand how they are getting away with this behind closed doors. All the more proof to me that the swamp is so deep and they have much to hide from the people. The hold these so called hearings but appears to me on what you are finding out that they really are not hearing, they are only questioning and providing their own answers. And then lie about them if it doesn't suit their narrative.

  • Susan K

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    When is Adam Schiff going to have to answer for his abominable behavior as a congressman? He needs to be questioned about his unacceptable tactics in front of the American people! This sleazeball should be removed from office now. Why is he getting away with this?!

  • Michael Smith

    10/17/2019 11:11 AM

    The Democratic CONGRESS are liars, CHEATS AND thieves, Mike. There are very few honest, ethical DEMS in Congress!

  • Jerry Korba

    10/17/2019 11:05 AM

    When hate is what powers one to complete a task desperate attempts usually become part of the haters tools. When you are desperate one will go beyond the facts and the truth usually if you are up against an intelligent person more so than the hater the hater will lose. In this was case Volker is like a cat playing with a mouse. Schiff armed with all the tools backroom, close door. secret meeting, hot lights, Volker tied to a chair Schiff using the torture of water dripping on Volker forehead for hours on end; OK maybe just being with Schiff and Swalwells seems like that is happening the 2 of them are miserable little rats under any circumstance normal people would treat them like the plague avoid them at all costs yea they are that miserable. For a moment you are a decent Human being and you get put on trial and you have Swalwells Schiff Pelosi Schumer Booker Harris Bluemethal rodents like that lecturing you for 10 hours for a crime you didn't commit I myself could not take them seriously I would play them like the mice they are.

  • Jane F Mitchell

    10/17/2019 10:58 AM

    Why is this allowed to go on? Can't AG Barr stop this? It is horrible and so dishonest. I just don't get why they are allowed to do this.

  • Wallace Sisk

    10/17/2019 10:56 AM

    Don’t know why these are not open to public or at least transcripts provided after each hearing - why can’t Republicans shut this guy down? What Schiff is doing should be illegal

  • Linda Springer

    10/17/2019 10:45 AM

    I believe the Republicans should stay out of there, refuse to be drawn into this total sham. It's time to stand up against this insanity.

  • Frank Manthey MD

    10/17/2019 10:43 AM

    The comments by Schiff are sufficiently & derogatory that he should be summarily censured if not impeached as a result of his interruptions in the sessions that have been witnessed by others attending yesterdays congressional sessions.

  • Brad

    10/17/2019 10:38 AM

    Wake me when it's over! ??

  • Cindy Collins

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    When will it end. This witch hunt is awful. I keep praying that people will see what is going and see the light.

  • Stephen Russell

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    But that same meeting blocked Rep Gaetz from attending event, Check verification, Bad optics

The WASHINGTON EXAMINER has some good sources inside Adam Schiff’s hearing room, so we’re getting an idea of what has been going on in there. What a travesty. It’s easy to see why Democrats aren’t allowing it to take place in public, let alone with video cameras, as Schiff's strongarm tactics for getting the testimony he wants are on full display.

This is particularly the case for former U.S. Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker in his testimony on October 4.

In her report the day of the hearing, which took place in a secure room in the U.S. Capitol, Susan Ferrechio said that “sources familiar with Volker’s testimony” told her that the former diplomat “repeatedly” rejected assertions by Schiff that Trump was pushing for a quid pro quo in his July 25 phone call with President Zelensky: Look, you investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and we’ll give you aid. The source said that Volker testified that the Americans never raised the issue and that the Ukrainians never felt pressure.

Of course, that didn’t stop Democrats from leaking selected and highly misleading text messages to make it look as though we were withholding security aid to get help with a political campaign, and it certainly didn’t stop fatuous California Rep. Eric Swalwell from running to microphones that very day and saying. “We saw further evidence that there was a shadow shakedown going on, and the lead deputy for the President was Rudy Giuliani.” He added that the testimony provided “more and more evidence” that Trump used the power of his office to “leverage help from an ally” to benefit him politically.

My goodness, that sounds serious.

But not so fast. As Volker had said in his opening statement, the Ukrainians asked HIM to put them in contact with Giuliani, not vice versa. And Mark Meadows said after the hearing, “There was definitely no quid pro quo, and it was asked 20 different times. The American people need to see the transcripts.” Well, we haven’t seen the transcripts in the days following the interview, but we do have the next best thing: an apparent leak of them to Byron York. And from this material, we know not only the words of Volker’s testimony –- there appears to have been no shakedown whatsoever –- but also the sleazy strategy being tried by Schiff to elicit the response he wants.

York’s report from Wednesday shows just how hard Schiff was trying to get Volker to say that the Ukrainians felt pressured by Trump to investigate the Bidens, specifically through the withholding of U.S. military aid. He kept asking the question in different ways, and Volker kept denying it in different ways. As it turns out, Volker didn’t even know that Trump had mentioned the Bidens during the call until the transcript of that conversation was released on September 25. He couldn’t deny that they felt pressured, of course; he could speak only for himself, but he had never been told anything about that, and he maintained that if they had, they would have brought it up with him. To his knowledge, the Ukrainians were not aware at that time that the aid had been suspended. And he said his first discussions of the issue with any Ukrainian official was on August 28 and 29, well after the July 25 phone call. He himself learned of it on July 18, one week before the phone call. He wondered about it but didn’t learn the reason for it.

His testimony was clear and specific: “The first conversation I had was when the diplomatic adviser to President Zelensky, Vadym Pristaico, I believe it was, texted me a copy of the POLITICO article about the hold on assistance. So I had had many conversations in the months prior to that, and this did not come up from him to me, which makes me believe that this was not on his radar until that time when he saw the article.”

That wasn’t good enough for Schiff, who is clearly a man on a mission. (Call it MISSION: IMPEACHABLE.)  When he didn’t get the testimony he wanted right off the bat, his strategy was first to gain Volker’s agreement on a general statement, asking Volker to agree that “no President of the United States should ever ask a foreign leader to help intervene in a U.S. election.”

“I agree with that,” Volker said.

Then Schiff led his witness into a hypothetical scenario, asking, “And that would be particularly egregious if it was done in the context of withholding foreign assistance?” 

Volker didn’t let himself be drawn into a hypothetical, saying. “We’re getting now into, you know, a conflation of these things that I didn’t think was actually there.

Dead end for Schiff! So, again, he asked another general question, asking him to agree that “if it’s inappropriate for a President to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a President was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country.”

Again –- and surely to Schiff’s dismay –- Volker refused to be drawn into a hypothetical and kept to the specifics of his own experience. “I can’t really speak to that,” he said. “My understanding of the security assistance issue is---”

Schiff cut him off and pressed him to answer. “Why can’t you speak to that, ambassador? You’re a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a President would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand how significant that would be, correct?”

Remember that Volker had already testified that to his knowledge, the Ukrainians weren’t yet aware that the aid had been withheld. He sort-of played along, saying, “I can understand how that would be significant.”

So Schiff sensed an opening and tried to blur the timeline: “And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the President had asked of them, wouldn’t it?”

Volker had already testified that as far as he was aware, they DIDN’T know. He tried again to make his point, beginning “So again, congressman, I don’t believe---” but was cut off again by Schiff.

“It’s a pretty straightforward question,” Schiff said.

“But I don’t believe the Ukrainians were aware of the assistance being held up---” Volker said, interrupted once again by Schiff.

“They became aware of it.”

“They became aware later, but I don’t believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied.”

You get the idea. There was much more of this volleying back and forth, with Schiff trying every which way to get Volker to go along with his made-up scenario. Volker never did. Clearly, his testimony did not support the point Schiff wanted to establish –- because Schiff was pushing a scenario that NEVER HAPPENED –- but that didn’t stop Schiff from relentlessly pursuing a flawed theory and for Swalwell to run to the microphones afterwards to do what he does best: lie.

 

Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressure from Trump

 

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Comments 26-49 of 49

  • Valerie Tarantolo

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    I really enjoy your page. I must tell you I have serious reservations about the future of America, all the tactics used by Schiff , Pelosi et. al reeks of Nazi Germany leading up to WW11 also of what Stalin did. The corruption is rife in the government. Why are the Reps such weaklings, and why is no one in jail?
    With Respect

  • Jim Simpson

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    Gov. --The reason Congressman Shifty and the Speaker want this stuff (meetings) in secret -- to quote Forrest Gump -- Stupid is as stupid does Sir! They don't want us to see stupid.

    Questions of the day: These politicos in Congress and the Senate took an oath to "defend the United States from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC." and defend and protect the Constitution.So help them God. If I recall. I know I swore to something very similar when I went in the U.S. Air Force.

    What is the point? ln plan sourthern english -- "they aint getting their job done." I strongly believe-- no, make that I know by their deeds--these folks are determined to destroy the Constitution, impeach a duly elected President of the United States, and make this country a Socialist Republic. Therefore these people are subverting their oath of office and if anyone is committing treason--- they are. They are the domestic THREAT. Not only that, they are getting nothing accomplished (solving the real problems of the country) for which they were elected.

    My real question is where is the DOJ? Why is charges of obstruction not being applied to everyone of these people in Congress? They are not fulfilling the oath of office they took. Why are charges not being made?

    What are we paying these people for?

    Count us sick and tired of this mess. Anyone else? No integrity in this government anymore. Thanks for letting us opine.

  • Diane Rowlands

    10/17/2019 11:58 AM

    I think the executive branch should go to court to get this nonsense overwith. The Dems should not be allowed to do this.

  • Joe Broadway

    10/17/2019 11:49 AM

    Schiff acts like a Auburn fan.??

  • William Schlumpf

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    I'm sorry but I just can't take characters like Schiff, Pelosi Swallwell, et al., seriously. They are bungling buffoons reminiscent of bad 60's TV comedy. The only thing missing is the German accents and the vulture dominating the earth insignia of KAOS in the background. No matter how hard they try these dopes just can't GET TRUMP.

  • Thaddeus Mazur

    10/17/2019 11:44 AM

    The chickens are now coming home to roost.
    What goes around comes around. All the lies he spoke outside the protection of the House are now going to bite him in the a$$.
    I can see the president and his lawyer both suing Schiff’ and the Democratic office even after Schiff is charged with Treason ..... for no other reason than to bankrupt the traitor and leave him destitute in prison.
    Ain’t Karma a Bitch.

  • rodney burke

    10/17/2019 11:26 AM

    this is so beyond sleeze I don't know if there is a word for it. This Ass should be thrown down the steps of congress, headlong. He isn't FIT to be in congress and it is apparent he doesn't represent anyone but him.. Looks like Gestapo or KGB tactics and not a hearing,. Deep state in action.

  • Nancy Bowman

    10/17/2019 11:22 AM

    They, the democrates, push till they receive the answer they are looking for. Why can't they stop this nonsense. This is such a farce!!

  • Joe Wilkerson

    10/17/2019 11:20 AM

    Schiff is blinded by his hate for Pres. Trump and his quest for trying to take down the pres. just as every dem. was/is still trying to take the NRA down. The NRA is now on the back burner thanks to Pres. Trump being moved to the front burner. Schiff along with Nadler and Pelosi are some of the most worthless people in congress. They are leeches trying to suck the presence of the microphone away anyway they can like the odor from a spoiled egg.

  • Judy Pevonka

    10/17/2019 11:19 AM

    You have spoken to the President; how do he and his family hold up with all this mud slinging and digging; they are digging for something to impeach him on; there is NOTHING that I can see; and what a farce the meeting in the White House with Pelosi, Schumer and Stenhouse walking out; these people are a JOKE!! How is all of this legal? The unhinged Democraps are making us a laughing stock to other countries. Pray, pray and pray. Thank you for giving us clarity on these issues; and I thank Sarah for remaining true to our President!

  • Kathy Hill Derusha

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Why in the world hasn't someone STOPPED Schiff....knowing he has lied and misled the public over and over again. WHY would this guy be in charge of ANYTHING?

  • Daniel Stepp

    10/17/2019 11:18 AM

    Mr Schiff is unworthy of the position he has in Congress. Clearly he wants his choice not the people's choice and certainly has no respect for truth. What a horrible experience for Mr Volker.

  • Lance E Brown

    10/17/2019 11:16 AM

    Oh My GAWD
    watching the morning news and it is all about one death, rest in peace, and Nancy P. seems Nancy had a go at Trump and didn't get what she was looking for! she immediately jumped in front of a camera and declared that Trump lost it. then we get to see the imagery, one still photo, of Nancy coming UNHINGED in the presents of the president. seems to me that we have laws against that sort of threatening behavior. But what is the story from the MSM ?? they put it all on Trump. two things to say hear. 1.) It takes two to tango. 2.) Skunk smells it's own Oder 1st! Nancy Lost it!

  • Robbie Mize

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    I still do not understand how they are getting away with this behind closed doors. All the more proof to me that the swamp is so deep and they have much to hide from the people. The hold these so called hearings but appears to me on what you are finding out that they really are not hearing, they are only questioning and providing their own answers. And then lie about them if it doesn't suit their narrative.

  • Susan K

    10/17/2019 11:12 AM

    When is Adam Schiff going to have to answer for his abominable behavior as a congressman? He needs to be questioned about his unacceptable tactics in front of the American people! This sleazeball should be removed from office now. Why is he getting away with this?!

  • Michael Smith

    10/17/2019 11:11 AM

    The Democratic CONGRESS are liars, CHEATS AND thieves, Mike. There are very few honest, ethical DEMS in Congress!

  • Jerry Korba

    10/17/2019 11:05 AM

    When hate is what powers one to complete a task desperate attempts usually become part of the haters tools. When you are desperate one will go beyond the facts and the truth usually if you are up against an intelligent person more so than the hater the hater will lose. In this was case Volker is like a cat playing with a mouse. Schiff armed with all the tools backroom, close door. secret meeting, hot lights, Volker tied to a chair Schiff using the torture of water dripping on Volker forehead for hours on end; OK maybe just being with Schiff and Swalwells seems like that is happening the 2 of them are miserable little rats under any circumstance normal people would treat them like the plague avoid them at all costs yea they are that miserable. For a moment you are a decent Human being and you get put on trial and you have Swalwells Schiff Pelosi Schumer Booker Harris Bluemethal rodents like that lecturing you for 10 hours for a crime you didn't commit I myself could not take them seriously I would play them like the mice they are.

  • Jane F Mitchell

    10/17/2019 10:58 AM

    Why is this allowed to go on? Can't AG Barr stop this? It is horrible and so dishonest. I just don't get why they are allowed to do this.

  • Wallace Sisk

    10/17/2019 10:56 AM

    Don’t know why these are not open to public or at least transcripts provided after each hearing - why can’t Republicans shut this guy down? What Schiff is doing should be illegal

  • Linda Springer

    10/17/2019 10:45 AM

    I believe the Republicans should stay out of there, refuse to be drawn into this total sham. It's time to stand up against this insanity.

  • Frank Manthey MD

    10/17/2019 10:43 AM

    The comments by Schiff are sufficiently & derogatory that he should be summarily censured if not impeached as a result of his interruptions in the sessions that have been witnessed by others attending yesterdays congressional sessions.

  • Brad

    10/17/2019 10:38 AM

    Wake me when it's over! ??

  • Cindy Collins

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    When will it end. This witch hunt is awful. I keep praying that people will see what is going and see the light.

  • Stephen Russell

    10/17/2019 10:25 AM

    But that same meeting blocked Rep Gaetz from attending event, Check verification, Bad optics