June 1, 2018
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Till now, out of everything we knew about the special counsel investigation into “collusion” with Russia, the biggest head-scratcher has been why Attorney General Jeff Sessions was still at his job and what he might be doing to justify a paycheck. But now, we may have an even bigger one: South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy’s odd responses to questions about the appropriateness of spying on the Trump campaign.

Gowdy, Devin Nunes and seven other House members received an hour-long briefing on May 24 after the Justice Department had refused to comply with a Congressional subpoena to provide documents relating to what reporter Mollie Hemingway describes as “an individual who was secretly gathering information on the Trump campaign on behalf of the federal government.” (Translation: SPY.) They received a classified briefing that, importantly, still did not provide the documents that would have satisfied the subpoena. In fact, Mark Meadows said afterwards that no documents –- zero –- were shown. According to Hemingway, a spokesperson for Gowdy repeatedly refused to answer questions about what, if any, documents were presented.

This is the meeting that was prefaced by a brief appearance by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Trump attorney Emmet Flood to call for transparency. It appears they wasted their breath.


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But Gowdy apparently didn’t need to see any documents to be convinced of what DOJ officials were telling them at the meeting. Such credulity seems strangely out of character for someone like Gowdy, a seasoned prosecutor who knows better than to believe people who continue to hide mountains of evidence. Yet for some reason, he took the DOJ’s “briefing” at face value. After the meeting, he said the FBI had done nothing inappropriate in their investigation of Russian interference. Never mind that we know for a fact spying was done; we have it from such disparate sources as The New York Times, The Washington Post, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and three people who have gone on record as being approached by the confidential informant (spy). We even know who the spy is, and his background as a spy. And Gowdy himself has suggested that an informant was used to collect information (to spy); the weird thing is that he’s now saying it was okay.

Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) jumped on his words as a “debunking” of the alleged spying. Not to say that spying wasn’t done, because we know it was, but Gowdy seemed to be saying that such activity is routine and should be accepted without question, even under these circumstances. He said the FBI was doing what his “fellow citizens” would have wanted them to do. (Mr. Gowdy, you can count this fellow citizen out.)

Yet, as Hemingway points out, he seemed unclear on a few aspects of the investigation, such as whether the FBI had been conducting a counterintelligence or criminal probe. He said he hadn't encountered the word “spy” in his work as a prosecutor, but his work has been only on the criminal side. He wants Mueller to be able to complete his investigation while admitting he doesn’t know the scope of it. In one interview, he mentioned Senators Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton as others who share his perspective, including them with “those who have seen the information.” But there is no evidence that they have seen the information, either.

Gowdy, Rubio, Cotton and anybody else who is ready to cave to bureaucratic power should read the latest column by go-to legal mind Andrew C. McCarthy, on just how hard it’s supposed to be to get a FISA warrant. To get a warrant to surveil Carter Page, the FBI would have had to give the court evidence that he was a clandestine agent of Russia, but the only evidence suggestive of that was in the unverified Steele “dossier.” And it remains unverified; if the FBI had ever verified that claim, Page would have been charged. He wasn’t.

McCarthy makes the case for the avoidance of political spying in America except in cases of serious wrongdoing. “We have an important norm in this country against political spying,” he says, “(as) a matter of tradition, of democratic institutions, of constitutional principles, and of modern history’s Watergate chapter. The incumbent administration must not use its awesome counterintelligence, counterespionage and law enforcement powers against its political opposition absent compelling evidence of egregious misconduct.”



When McCarthy goes on to put Trump’s perceived softness towards Russia into historical perspective, Mitt Romney, in citing Russia as our most serious threat, is about the only one who comes out unscathed. Appropriately (because no one was sent in to spy on HER campaign), Hillary’s ties with Russia are cited: the $145 million given to the Clinton Foundation, the $500,000 to Bill for a brief speech, and the fact that she was “neck-deep in the Uranium One scandal.”

His point is “that after 30 years of embracing and empowering Moscow, it is not credible --- particularly for an administration that was among the worst offenders --- to say ‘We had to use spies and FISA surveillance against the Trump campaign due to suspicion that Trump might embrace and empower Moscow.’” As we’ve said, if the administration had been acting in good faith, it could have done things it did not do: interview Page and Manafort, for example, and certainly inform Trump of its concerns. But this was not good faith –- it was very obviously a massive case of political opportunism.

But one thing remains unclear: the reason for Trey Gowdy’s odd failure to grasp that. Now, what do we say, class? If something doesn’t make sense, there’s a key piece of the puzzle still missing.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/trump-russia-investigation-obama-administration-spying-hypocritical/

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/30/trey-gowdy-didnt-even-see-documents-he-claims-exonerate-fbi-on-spygate-reports/

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  • Cindy Rooy

    04/10/2020 12:34 PM

    As with anyone getting too close to Clinton and certain democrats, I believe his family’s lives have been threatened. That’s the only reason for his sudden lack of pursuance of the obvious.

  • Robert A. Funk

    03/29/2020 09:00 PM

    You may disagree, but I believe Gowdy was all talk and no action. He was wonderful grilling witnesses and sounded like he surely knew what he was talking about. But I do not remember him ever doing anything to fix the issues he found about what they were doing wrong. I am happy he is out of government and hope he stays in the private sector.

  • Ray Quigley

    03/21/2020 06:48 PM

    I have placed Trey Gowdy on a pedestal and believe in his integrity. Just as I support President Trump.
    Let’s stick together or we will self destruct from within.

  • Ray Quigley

    03/21/2020 04:47 PM

    I have placed Trey Gowdy on a pedestal and believe in his integrity. Just as I support President Trump.
    Let’s stick together or we will self destruct from within.

  • Richard Smail

    03/19/2020 07:53 AM

    At face value he’s either been bought off or they have something on him.

  • ROBERT FISCHL

    03/17/2020 11:34 AM

    Trey Gowdy is an enigma.

  • Robert (Bob)

    03/09/2020 06:43 PM

    There’s the possibility that the DOJ has discovered something of such a high level of value that if too many people know, the DOJ would not be able to use it come time for proper prosecution!
    With the country so divided, prosecuting Hillary and/or Obama, would very nearly cause another civil war! But if they’ve got such damning evidence that would put those two away for the rest of their lives, I’m all for it! I suspect the evidence might need to ripen so that even the left will want to string them up. And even all of Soros’ money and the Clinton Foundation$ will not be enough to save them!!!

  • Karen Minnich

    02/19/2020 03:07 PM

    I wonder if Trey Gowdy or his family had been threatened and told to back off?

  • Ruthie Ross

    02/13/2020 09:48 AM

    Mike, I appreciate your intelligent insights here, yet, I’m afraid much of the content remains confusing & convoluted to us every day Americans who don’t have time to keep up with all the detailed corruption...Ha!
    What do you suggest? ????

  • A George

    02/12/2020 11:39 PM

    Because of the patriot act, all they have to do is put a person that is under investigation like Carter Page into your circle and they can spy into all of your circles. The patriot act was a socialist tool to attain more government ability to spy into Americans lives.. i

  • Floyd Maguire

    02/11/2020 05:38 PM

    You must not have liked my comment ,as I am not a robot. It’s strange as effective as Gowdy has been and suddenly dropped out of Congress with no plans. I hope he hasn’t become a part of the establishment globalization drive.

  • Patricia Phillips

    01/28/2020 09:44 PM

    I am beginning to think I'm the crazy one. Is everyone corrupt except our President? This impeahment debacle is a joke. This corruption goes beyond our country and is mafia like in scope. It is all so very corrupt. I would really like to see how deep this is. An enormous amount of money is being doled out. Thanks

  • Patricia Clisham

    01/23/2020 04:19 PM

    I'm disappointed in Gowdy.
    I admired his integrity. Unfortunately some of the shine came off when he let Trump down by leaving office instead of staying on to give him the support he needs. Looks like he is still backing off.

  • Fox Schaffer

    01/20/2020 09:01 AM

    Either Gowdy is a turncoat, or, as I suspect, it's a gambit or a Queen sacrifice. Trey is cagey, as is Trump, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this isn't a long game to play out AFTER Senate is done with impeachment trial?!

  • Janet L Bingham

    01/09/2020 07:14 PM

    Mr. Gowdy has done several odd things of late. I thought he was one of the good guys but I am no longer confident of this.

  • Jules Lemelle

    01/03/2020 09:54 AM

    That is wierd Mike; I'm skeptical too, for all the exhibition of knowledge and professed propriety, integrity along with expressed incredulity at what he described as unprecidented gall of Hillary Clinton's botched email scenarios evidence, he has remained puzzelingly accepting of her immunity superstucial position above the law.
    Has his life been threatened?

  • Patricia Gordon

    12/31/2019 05:36 PM

    Trey Gowdy does not care about our President. He is not for Donald trump and neither is Rubio.

  • Elizabeth Ann Lovic

    12/20/2019 09:36 PM

    Enough of wasting time by playing cruel jokes! This President, who I think we are fortunate to call our President, should recieve the same respect as any president before him. I am appalled at the misbehavior of the Congress! Beginning with the black dress....she fooled no one! Followed by the bright red dress the following day...so obvious!
    May God Bless this man who is working so hard for us, as for those who despise him, may they see the light one day. Let’s end these lies!

  • Nancy Wagner

    12/14/2019 11:28 PM

    I hope he isn't vulnerable to threats so he sells out! Keep us posted!

  • Wynnie sleziak

    12/14/2019 05:05 PM

    I am so thankful for you during this crazy and hate-filled time!!

June 1, 2018
|

Till now, out of everything we knew about the special counsel investigation into “collusion” with Russia, the biggest head-scratcher has been why Attorney General Jeff Sessions was still at his job and what he might be doing to justify a paycheck. But now, we may have an even bigger one: South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy’s odd responses to questions about the appropriateness of spying on the Trump campaign.

Gowdy, Devin Nunes and seven other House members received an hour-long briefing on May 24 after the Justice Department had refused to comply with a Congressional subpoena to provide documents relating to what reporter Mollie Hemingway describes as “an individual who was secretly gathering information on the Trump campaign on behalf of the federal government.” (Translation: SPY.) They received a classified briefing that, importantly, still did not provide the documents that would have satisfied the subpoena. In fact, Mark Meadows said afterwards that no documents –- zero –- were shown. According to Hemingway, a spokesperson for Gowdy repeatedly refused to answer questions about what, if any, documents were presented.

This is the meeting that was prefaced by a brief appearance by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Trump attorney Emmet Flood to call for transparency. It appears they wasted their breath.


Commentary continues below advertisement


But Gowdy apparently didn’t need to see any documents to be convinced of what DOJ officials were telling them at the meeting. Such credulity seems strangely out of character for someone like Gowdy, a seasoned prosecutor who knows better than to believe people who continue to hide mountains of evidence. Yet for some reason, he took the DOJ’s “briefing” at face value. After the meeting, he said the FBI had done nothing inappropriate in their investigation of Russian interference. Never mind that we know for a fact spying was done; we have it from such disparate sources as The New York Times, The Washington Post, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and three people who have gone on record as being approached by the confidential informant (spy). We even know who the spy is, and his background as a spy. And Gowdy himself has suggested that an informant was used to collect information (to spy); the weird thing is that he’s now saying it was okay.

Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) jumped on his words as a “debunking” of the alleged spying. Not to say that spying wasn’t done, because we know it was, but Gowdy seemed to be saying that such activity is routine and should be accepted without question, even under these circumstances. He said the FBI was doing what his “fellow citizens” would have wanted them to do. (Mr. Gowdy, you can count this fellow citizen out.)

Yet, as Hemingway points out, he seemed unclear on a few aspects of the investigation, such as whether the FBI had been conducting a counterintelligence or criminal probe. He said he hadn't encountered the word “spy” in his work as a prosecutor, but his work has been only on the criminal side. He wants Mueller to be able to complete his investigation while admitting he doesn’t know the scope of it. In one interview, he mentioned Senators Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton as others who share his perspective, including them with “those who have seen the information.” But there is no evidence that they have seen the information, either.

Gowdy, Rubio, Cotton and anybody else who is ready to cave to bureaucratic power should read the latest column by go-to legal mind Andrew C. McCarthy, on just how hard it’s supposed to be to get a FISA warrant. To get a warrant to surveil Carter Page, the FBI would have had to give the court evidence that he was a clandestine agent of Russia, but the only evidence suggestive of that was in the unverified Steele “dossier.” And it remains unverified; if the FBI had ever verified that claim, Page would have been charged. He wasn’t.

McCarthy makes the case for the avoidance of political spying in America except in cases of serious wrongdoing. “We have an important norm in this country against political spying,” he says, “(as) a matter of tradition, of democratic institutions, of constitutional principles, and of modern history’s Watergate chapter. The incumbent administration must not use its awesome counterintelligence, counterespionage and law enforcement powers against its political opposition absent compelling evidence of egregious misconduct.”



When McCarthy goes on to put Trump’s perceived softness towards Russia into historical perspective, Mitt Romney, in citing Russia as our most serious threat, is about the only one who comes out unscathed. Appropriately (because no one was sent in to spy on HER campaign), Hillary’s ties with Russia are cited: the $145 million given to the Clinton Foundation, the $500,000 to Bill for a brief speech, and the fact that she was “neck-deep in the Uranium One scandal.”

His point is “that after 30 years of embracing and empowering Moscow, it is not credible --- particularly for an administration that was among the worst offenders --- to say ‘We had to use spies and FISA surveillance against the Trump campaign due to suspicion that Trump might embrace and empower Moscow.’” As we’ve said, if the administration had been acting in good faith, it could have done things it did not do: interview Page and Manafort, for example, and certainly inform Trump of its concerns. But this was not good faith –- it was very obviously a massive case of political opportunism.

But one thing remains unclear: the reason for Trey Gowdy’s odd failure to grasp that. Now, what do we say, class? If something doesn’t make sense, there’s a key piece of the puzzle still missing.

LEAVE ME A COMMENT BY CLICKING HERE.  I READ THEM!

ADDITIONAL READING

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/trump-russia-investigation-obama-administration-spying-hypocritical/

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/30/trey-gowdy-didnt-even-see-documents-he-claims-exonerate-fbi-on-spygate-reports/

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Comments 21-40 of 431

  • Cindy Rooy

    04/10/2020 12:34 PM

    As with anyone getting too close to Clinton and certain democrats, I believe his family’s lives have been threatened. That’s the only reason for his sudden lack of pursuance of the obvious.

  • Robert A. Funk

    03/29/2020 09:00 PM

    You may disagree, but I believe Gowdy was all talk and no action. He was wonderful grilling witnesses and sounded like he surely knew what he was talking about. But I do not remember him ever doing anything to fix the issues he found about what they were doing wrong. I am happy he is out of government and hope he stays in the private sector.

  • Ray Quigley

    03/21/2020 06:48 PM

    I have placed Trey Gowdy on a pedestal and believe in his integrity. Just as I support President Trump.
    Let’s stick together or we will self destruct from within.

  • Ray Quigley

    03/21/2020 04:47 PM

    I have placed Trey Gowdy on a pedestal and believe in his integrity. Just as I support President Trump.
    Let’s stick together or we will self destruct from within.

  • Richard Smail

    03/19/2020 07:53 AM

    At face value he’s either been bought off or they have something on him.

  • ROBERT FISCHL

    03/17/2020 11:34 AM

    Trey Gowdy is an enigma.

  • Robert (Bob)

    03/09/2020 06:43 PM

    There’s the possibility that the DOJ has discovered something of such a high level of value that if too many people know, the DOJ would not be able to use it come time for proper prosecution!
    With the country so divided, prosecuting Hillary and/or Obama, would very nearly cause another civil war! But if they’ve got such damning evidence that would put those two away for the rest of their lives, I’m all for it! I suspect the evidence might need to ripen so that even the left will want to string them up. And even all of Soros’ money and the Clinton Foundation$ will not be enough to save them!!!

  • Karen Minnich

    02/19/2020 03:07 PM

    I wonder if Trey Gowdy or his family had been threatened and told to back off?

  • Ruthie Ross

    02/13/2020 09:48 AM

    Mike, I appreciate your intelligent insights here, yet, I’m afraid much of the content remains confusing & convoluted to us every day Americans who don’t have time to keep up with all the detailed corruption...Ha!
    What do you suggest? ????

  • A George

    02/12/2020 11:39 PM

    Because of the patriot act, all they have to do is put a person that is under investigation like Carter Page into your circle and they can spy into all of your circles. The patriot act was a socialist tool to attain more government ability to spy into Americans lives.. i

  • Floyd Maguire

    02/11/2020 05:38 PM

    You must not have liked my comment ,as I am not a robot. It’s strange as effective as Gowdy has been and suddenly dropped out of Congress with no plans. I hope he hasn’t become a part of the establishment globalization drive.

  • Patricia Phillips

    01/28/2020 09:44 PM

    I am beginning to think I'm the crazy one. Is everyone corrupt except our President? This impeahment debacle is a joke. This corruption goes beyond our country and is mafia like in scope. It is all so very corrupt. I would really like to see how deep this is. An enormous amount of money is being doled out. Thanks

  • Patricia Clisham

    01/23/2020 04:19 PM

    I'm disappointed in Gowdy.
    I admired his integrity. Unfortunately some of the shine came off when he let Trump down by leaving office instead of staying on to give him the support he needs. Looks like he is still backing off.

  • Fox Schaffer

    01/20/2020 09:01 AM

    Either Gowdy is a turncoat, or, as I suspect, it's a gambit or a Queen sacrifice. Trey is cagey, as is Trump, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this isn't a long game to play out AFTER Senate is done with impeachment trial?!

  • Janet L Bingham

    01/09/2020 07:14 PM

    Mr. Gowdy has done several odd things of late. I thought he was one of the good guys but I am no longer confident of this.

  • Jules Lemelle

    01/03/2020 09:54 AM

    That is wierd Mike; I'm skeptical too, for all the exhibition of knowledge and professed propriety, integrity along with expressed incredulity at what he described as unprecidented gall of Hillary Clinton's botched email scenarios evidence, he has remained puzzelingly accepting of her immunity superstucial position above the law.
    Has his life been threatened?

  • Patricia Gordon

    12/31/2019 05:36 PM

    Trey Gowdy does not care about our President. He is not for Donald trump and neither is Rubio.

  • Elizabeth Ann Lovic

    12/20/2019 09:36 PM

    Enough of wasting time by playing cruel jokes! This President, who I think we are fortunate to call our President, should recieve the same respect as any president before him. I am appalled at the misbehavior of the Congress! Beginning with the black dress....she fooled no one! Followed by the bright red dress the following day...so obvious!
    May God Bless this man who is working so hard for us, as for those who despise him, may they see the light one day. Let’s end these lies!

  • Nancy Wagner

    12/14/2019 11:28 PM

    I hope he isn't vulnerable to threats so he sells out! Keep us posted!

  • Wynnie sleziak

    12/14/2019 05:05 PM

    I am so thankful for you during this crazy and hate-filled time!!