Why it was so hard to pass tax reform

December 21, 2017 |

Fox Business host Trish Regan slammed President Trump and the GOP tax reform bill because it fails to keep Trump’s campaign promise to do away with the carried interest deduction.  That lets investors reclassify their income to pay a lower rate than salaried workers.  

I happen to agree with her on this issue, and several others.  For instance, I’m disappointed that the bill keeps seven tax brackets.  I’m disappointed that they had to strike the clause allowing families to put their own money into education savings accounts for their kids’ schooling. Heck, I’m disappointed that it doesn’t disband the IRS, or scrap the entire horrendous tax code and replace it with the Fair Tax.  But in the immortal words of Mick Jagger, “You can’t always get what you want.”

But that’s one of many drawbacks of trying to scrape up support to pass a huge bill of any type.  Congress members can always find that one detail they don’t like to use as an excuse to vote no and let the perfect be the enemy of the good. That’s why we still have Obamacare (at least this bill includes a repeal of the onerous mandate to buy unwanted and unaffordable insurance or else pay a tax penalty) and why this is the first major overhaul of our oppressive, unwieldy and widely-hated tax code in over 30 years. 


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  • Anne turner

    12/21/2017 11:19 AM

    I do hope that the Democrat leadership is not as lacking in brain power as their statements indicate. I can understand why they do not like certain provisions, but why can’t they just state what they don’t like and give solid reasons why. It is hard to take things like “Armageddon”. seriously. I am sure they have some valid points, but we really don’t Know what they are specifically. No tax bill is perfect, because Congress just keeps doing virtually the same process over and over, instead of, as you say, coming up with a new fair and tidy way to handle taxation.

  • donald h smith

    12/21/2017 11:15 AM

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  • L D Moore

    12/21/2017 11:14 AM

    Like so many Americans, I am fed up with both sides of the aisle. Life has compromises but it seems that the American public are the only ones who have to live with those compromises made for by the elected representatives. It's past time for the career politicians to live by the same rules and laws they impose on the rest of America. The 7 tax brackets instead of 3, as promised on the campaign trail, was a failure for the Republicans by not standing up to lobbyists, the other side of the aisle and the 'hired help' from NJ, NY and CA. Now here comes the threat to shut down the government by the Democrats over DACA. Drain the swamp, shut down the IRS, close the doors and send those who are here illegally home!

  • Carol T Farmer

    12/21/2017 11:11 AM

    I agree with you 100%...at least they passed a tax bill even though it isn't perfect...hopefully they will work on it some more...
    It should be 10% for everyone including "the poor". Most people with dependent children get EIC that is almost as much as they earned all year. I think they should have to pay 10% of that as their "fair share". Just an opinion...

  • Rick Emmertson

    12/21/2017 10:58 AM

    It was difficult to pass because Queen Nancy and King Chucky decreed that their servants (dems) vote no. The repubs were shoving this tax plan down our throat and not even giving us a chance to hold our nose. I pray the POTUS has America's best interest at heart. In the famous words of Buck Rogers, "The hardest thing to tell about a politician is; Are they trying to clean up corruption, or get in on it? " #Bethegood

  • Jack Willis

    12/21/2017 10:51 AM

    I believe that although President Trump and Mike Pence are working for us, that most if not all of Congress are working to protect their own wallets. If that isn't the case then why are they so scared of a loud mouthed, bleach blond wig wearing real estate developer with no political experience? I do not remember who advocated for the flat U.S. sales tax but I think that would be wonderful. No exemptions, no loopholes. Do away with the I.R.S. like you said. Thank you, God Bless you and hoping you and your family have a very Merry Christmas. pastorjack

  • Bob Harrelson

    12/21/2017 10:49 AM

    Mike, you of all people should know getting 535 people to agree on anything is next to impossible. Campaign promises are more of a wish list than reality. There are things I don’t like about this bill and as it becomes law and is implemented I’m sure there will be other things not yet discovered that I won’t care for. However, I am pleased that congress has finally got off of their collective backsides and passed some legislation. To the democrates all of which opposed this. If you don’t stop whining and at least try and work with Republicans you are going to see a lot more happen that you don’t like. The way I see it we have the best chance in years for congress to work together. President Trump of all understands the art of compromise. Both sides should be smart enough to use that. Get some of what you want and live to (fight) or wheel and deal another day. To achieve more of what you want. If you can convince the president it is for the best he will consider anything regardless of which side it comes from.
    P.S. George Washington was right. Two political parties is destroying this country.

  • Old Nikko

    12/21/2017 10:45 AM

    Remember the Reagan 80% rule Governor... we can work on the other 20% when the time is right. 80% of a loaf is a LOT better than 00%.

  • Richard Singletary

    12/21/2017 10:41 AM

    i LOVE CONVENTION OF STATES LOVE. i WAS A T.E.A. MEMBER. VERY MUCH LIKE SARAH SANDERS. i HOPE SHE KNOWS WHEN PREGNANT CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AFFECTS THE FETUS. god bless!!! I LOVE TO MEET MISS OR MRS SANDERS!!! NO DOUBT SHE IS CHRISTIAN.

  • Carol Wilson

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    The thieving politicians in DC will not pass a real tax reform bill. The only way to benefit the people is to replace the tax code and the IRS with the FairTax bill. It is the most sensible, comprehensive fix.

  • June Winter

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    You views on taxes are right on! I so wished for you to be our President!!

  • Roy Sterling Trout

    12/21/2017 10:34 AM

    Hey anyone who doesn't like the tax cuts can give me the extra money in your paycheck next year! If you have a problem with higher wages, and more money then I don't know what to tell you!

  • pete K

    12/21/2017 10:31 AM

    Totally agree...and the idea of breaking bills to simple "one at a time issues" is a item that you should directly and openly call them out on!!

  • Bernadette Dillon

    12/21/2017 10:25 AM

    Merry Christmas Governor Huckabee to you and your family! May 2018 be a most Blessed year for you

  • Donald Klos

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    Mike,
    At least Donald Trump accomplish a start point. Like you stated, the Riff Raff in Congress (mainly Dumbocratic) load tons of non-sense into the huge bills.
    Now that we have a start to tax reform it can be further adjusted in the future. I personally think this was a good start.

    The biggest change we need is to drain the swamp of Liberal Dumbocrats like Pelosi, Schumer, Walters & the list goes on. BUT we also have traitors in the Republican party such as Ryan, McConnell and blind eyed Attorney General Sessions who all need to be ousted.
    Until we get a government represented by people who are actually for "We the People", it will always be a challenge to get good changes made.

    Thank You for being a Patriotic American and your support for Donald Trump!

  • Lorene Thompson

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    I think it is frightening that Congress has control to consider a tax reform based on what they have done in the past with our country. Congress is filled with self absorbed, spoiled, prideful, over rated intelligence, and, this is only a few of their issues, individuals that care very little about the people and what truly would help the country. We, the people, no longer exists in their eyes but We, the Congress is all that matters. It really is all about THEM!

  • Helen Corey

    12/21/2017 10:10 AM

    Banning corporate lobbyists and putting term limits on Congress would limit legislative scams on taxpayers. Pelosi, Shumer, Durbin & their ilk would have been long gone. Being retired with moderate income, thanks to frugal husband who has to reign in spending habits of non-frugal wife who likes to indulge grandkids, we won’t benefit much from tax cuts. We support President Trump who battles behemoth of big government created by his predecessors and intransigent Congress bought by lobbyists.

  • Mike Upchurch

    12/21/2017 10:03 AM

    Mike, I agree whole heartedly with you. The bill is far better that than what we have now. However it does not remove the IRS, and it still gives the power to the people in swamp rather than to our citizens.

  • William Beverly

    12/21/2017 10:01 AM

    I too would like it if congress would pass the FAIR TAX and get rid of the IRS and their 30,000 employees and billions of taxpayer dollars required to fund this useless part of government. Alas, I think it will require a convention of states and possibly an amendment to the constitution to achieve this. A convention of states could also establish a balanced budget amendment, term limits for congress and the Judiciary and other beneficial things.

    When Obamacare was passed, the IRS hired sixteen thousand new employees to police the individual mandate and the possible tax penalties. Since the individual mandate is now gone, what happens to those sixteen thousand IRS employees who are no longer needed?

    Best Regards,

    William Beverly

  • Harry Cheney

    12/21/2017 10:00 AM

    On conservative commentator said if he were president he would veto any bill longer than the Constitution. Much, if not most, of the steady march toward socialism is due to bills too long and too complicated to read and fully understand.

  • William Carter

    12/21/2017 09:59 AM

    I agree! Congress is truly a swamp. As a whole, it has become the most anti citizen group anywhere around. Congress should have been behind the “for the people” motto. With so many special interests and so many improper influences... it is so hard to believe what that group has become as a whole.

    I’m just still so disappointed!

  • Shapero, Financial Advisor

    12/21/2017 09:57 AM

    BTW where are the spending cuts?

  • Kathy fostr

    12/21/2017 09:53 AM

    The bills should deal with one issue only then they can't hide hidden agendas! Also that money is OURS and we want a flat tax! Obama used his pen, now for the people Trump needs to use his. And gun control better not get passed, we are hearing the rumbling of the consequences already! For supposedly smart people congress is endangering them selves and know it! Some of us don't want our families to suffer when war breaks out! And it will so we hear! The 2nd Amendment is Americans only safety net and they won't lose it!

  • Bob Boynton

    12/21/2017 09:50 AM

    Keep up the good fight and put Silly Hillary and Slippery Billy in jail.

  • Claudia Griffin

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I’m with you! Do away with Incone Tax and the IRA and pass a consumption tax

  • Connie Jo Freeman

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I love you Mike and your simple version of taxation! Keep preaching, God’s word and way and good, simple government. You may talk about Convention of the States but I haven’t heard you. JURISDICTION is out of wack and you have a platform to share it! God bless you, Mike, and your beloved family. Merry Christmas!

  • Jeffrey Prindle

    12/21/2017 09:47 AM

    Mr Huckabee-
    i agree with you like 98 % of the time -- i totally respect you and i thank you for all you have done and are doing.
    i again totally agree with you about the fair tax system-- it would be WONDERFUL --why do i almost never hear anyone talk about that --cure ---for our terrible complicated ta system?? is it because it would lay off millions of people who work for IRS H&R block - tax attorneys?
    please continue do what you do--
    a fan for years
    jeff prindle

  • Charles Kirkland

    12/21/2017 09:44 AM

    So true, Mr. H. Compromise is a trip. It goes without saying, that Republicans try to please everyone to do a good job, yet Democrats don't have to, because of obvious reasons. Namely POWER. POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL. The Tea Party needs to lobby harder, to get either the FairTax, or even the Cain 9-9-9 brought into consideration. Yet, the focus is not always on the people, but political grandstanding to get pet projects passed, in lieu of the right things for individual prosperity and business success.

  • Omer Causey

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Some state constitutions require single-subject bills. Article V Convention of States could add that to the US Constitution, along with term limits.

  • Michael Egbert

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Can't please everyone...at least its a start and this bill could be amended later to satisfy those with their own agendas that are making noises about the current bill not being good enough....

  • Dave Heidbreder

    12/21/2017 09:29 AM

    Merry Christmas! I too am a believer in scrapping the Tax Code and replacing it with the Fair Tax, however, since we have run up our debt so much during the last several years, we now need to retain the income tax.
    For over thirty years our Tax Code has been amended and tinkered with until it has become the monstrosity that it is today. During that time, wages have been stifled and defined benefit pension plans have all but disappeared in favor of plans such as the 401k. All the while, the rich and powerful have retained lobbyists to acquire special considerations and exceptions to taxation. The rich got richer on the backs of those that made do with stagnant wages while the cost of living was getting more expensive.

    Tax reform, Entitlement reform and Debt reduction/elimination go hand in hand. Currently, our Tax Code is ridiculously complicated with approximately 80,000 pages. It simply needs to be scrapped! (Repealed and replaced). Reform should occur from the bottom up. In other words, if income will continue to be taxed, any exemptions should start with the first dollar. Ideally, most income should be exempt from taxation since income taxation is counter productive. Why should the first dollar of earned income be taxed when when many wage earners are included in poverty level incomes? Payroll taxes are taxes on income. When income is exempted from payroll taxation, both the employer and employee share in the savings since employers match what is deducted from employee wages.

    Entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits are currently funded primarily from payroll taxes deducted from workers wages. Unfortunately, that only makes each wage earner feel “entitled” to get all that money back at sometime in the future when, in reality, Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits were originally instituted as safety nets for those who were unable to work or became indigent.

    Our new Tax Code should be written succinctly and so that it can be easily understood. Because of the huge amount of debt, perhaps a new “modified” Fair Tax Bill (HR 25) should be considered. Unfortunately, the Fair Tax bill must be modified to permit the continuance of the income tax and payroll taxes so that our country can more quickly dig ourselves out of debt and possibly eventually even become debt free!

    In order to remove the illusion that we are saving money for our own purposes instead of providing for the indigent, the income tax and payroll taxes should be changed to exempt the first two hundred thousand dollars of income; essentially eliminating the ability for all but a small percentage of earners from suggesting that they are “paying” for their retirement and medical benefits.

    The Fair Tax is a tax on consumption and necessarily provides for a prebate which is a payment from the government to each household to cover what each household would need to pay in sales tax up to a designated poverty level of income so that no-one’s spending would be penalized up to that certain level.

    Since each household would be getting the prebate, it could also be used as a vehicle to dole out other government benefits such as food stamps for those who qualify, housing benefits etc. If one is found guilty of cheating or defrauding the government, benefits could be withheld for whatever period necessary to repay the government.

    The Fair Tax consumption tax is an inclusive tax meaning that the tax would already be included in the price of each good or service purchased. In other words a $1 candy bar, for example, would be $1 at checkout, not $1 plus the consumption tax. The seller would be required to take the tax out of the $1 and send it in to the government. The consumption tax would be set at a rate that would replace what would have normally have been provided by income tax. Taxing in this way would be much more palatable for everyone while at the same time not increasing debt!

    All income over $200000 would be taxed and said taxes could be used to pay down debt since the consumption taxes, along with payroll taxes on incomes over $200000, would be providing the revenue for all other government expenditures. Income taxes could be linked to some kind of debt level measurement. In other words, when debt reaches a designated level, income taxes would kick in, until our debt was reduced back to said designated level. The beauty of this concept is that there would be no need for more than one marginal bracket and the percentage would be be a small number as opposed to the draconian rates of today.

    Currently, the Social Security Retirement Survivor and Disability Benefits are based on a complicated formula based on the number of quarters worked and the amount of earned income upon which payroll taxes were based. Under the proposed tax reform, the maximum allowed benefit could be capped at its present rate until the lower benefits are gradually increased according to inflation, until they reach today's maximum (capped) level, at which time the cap could be removed, and only increased as needed. This would help save and extend Social Security by bringing it under control and at the same time gradually bringing the benefit paid to beneficiaries to an equal amount so that there would be no discrimination. After all, why should one person's safety net be more than an others?

    Since payroll and income taxes would essentially be eliminated for most wage earners, they would have more disposable income to afford health insurance and HSA's, college tuition and retirement saving plans (as well as other things.) Business owners would have more profit since they wouldn't have to pay payroll taxes on the first $200000 of an employee's wages. Some of said profits would then be reinvested in more capital expenditures and more jobs!

    Other positive results of this proposed tax reform would be 1.) that the number of taxpayers (the tax base) would be increased since consumption in the form of spending is done by everyone including those tax cheats that fail to file income tax returns, drug lords that do not pay income tax on their ill gotten gains but spend lavishly, other income not taxed from organized crime such as gambling and prostitution etc.. There is also all the money spent by foreign visitors (tourists) and even illegal alien visitors that would contribute to the welfare and safety nets for all of us who die prematurely or become disabled and aged. 2.) Tax evasion would be harder. 3.) And tax collection and enforcement would be easier and cheaper. 4.) Businesses and entrepreneurs wouldn't have to worry about payroll and self-employment taxes except for the few that are being paid more than $200,000 per year. 5.) Most, if not all, workers would see an immediate increase in take home pay. 6.) It would be unnecessary to be concerned with tax deductions providing for a much less stressful way of life. 7.) Those fortunate enough to earn more than $200,000 per year could not complain about those less fortunate not paying taxes since they, themselves would not be paying anything on their first $200,000 either. 8.) U. S. employers would be more able to compete with foreign employers and 9.) foreign employers would be more willing to open factories here. With more employment comes more spending and more revenue.
    And finally but importantly, it would be easier to estimate revenues!

    I realize that this is simply a rough draft but it would be a good start! Please, Oh Please, do not simply tinker with our current monstrosity of a tax code. Scrap it!

    Sincerely,

    Dave Heidbreder
    416 N Ludlow St
    Olney, Il. 62450

  • Jim Lindstrom

    12/21/2017 09:28 AM

    Why couldn’t the President use an “executive order “ and take away Congress benefits and put them on our health care program and Social Security and take away the slush fund they use for their own benefit. Obama used his powers to do what he thought was good for him and his party. ???

  • Burney Fordham

    12/21/2017 09:27 AM

    Gov Huckabee, I noticed you mentioned the Fair Tax in your article... If you had been elected President, would you have fought for that? It still amazes me today how many folks have never heard about. I listened to Neil Boortz talk radio for years and he was an authority on it. I believe that the Fair Tax (HR 25) is the way to go but the wheel horses in DC and the IRS are too important to let it happen... Keep on wring Governor!!!!!

  • Greg Hunter

    12/21/2017 09:24 AM

    That would make TOO MUCH SENSE ??

  • Lindell H.(Bill) Bonney Sr.

    12/21/2017 09:19 AM

    At least the basic tax layout is in place. I would think forward thinking people would be able to now quietly single out an item that is less than perfect and address it.

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:11 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:10 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • Stephen J. Redwine

    12/21/2017 08:49 AM

    Hi Mike,

    Thank you for doing what you do to try to help our country. Regarding taxes, the great majority of people I speak with simply think that corporations should pay more and that they should pay less. What almost NONE of them realize is that the individual end user pays all of the taxes -- corporations only collect taxes, but they build them into the price of their products. These taxes are then "hidden" from the end user.

    I would like to see the Republicans educate people that the Democrats are trying to hide the cost of government from them!

    Best regards,

    Steve...

  • Henry Long Jr

    12/21/2017 08:48 AM

    Enjoyed your comments on why it was so hard to pass a tax bill, especially the comment on "hiding the graft". Unfortunately the VAST MAJORITY of our elected officials stand for nothing more than re-election and lining their pockets. If that happens to help their constituency, GREAT!! If it doesn't, sorry about that!! We need to start a MASSIVE drive for TERM LIMITS!!

Why it was so hard to pass tax reform

December 21, 2017 |

Fox Business host Trish Regan slammed President Trump and the GOP tax reform bill because it fails to keep Trump’s campaign promise to do away with the carried interest deduction.  That lets investors reclassify their income to pay a lower rate than salaried workers.  

I happen to agree with her on this issue, and several others.  For instance, I’m disappointed that the bill keeps seven tax brackets.  I’m disappointed that they had to strike the clause allowing families to put their own money into education savings accounts for their kids’ schooling. Heck, I’m disappointed that it doesn’t disband the IRS, or scrap the entire horrendous tax code and replace it with the Fair Tax.  But in the immortal words of Mick Jagger, “You can’t always get what you want.”

But that’s one of many drawbacks of trying to scrape up support to pass a huge bill of any type.  Congress members can always find that one detail they don’t like to use as an excuse to vote no and let the perfect be the enemy of the good. That’s why we still have Obamacare (at least this bill includes a repeal of the onerous mandate to buy unwanted and unaffordable insurance or else pay a tax penalty) and why this is the first major overhaul of our oppressive, unwieldy and widely-hated tax code in over 30 years. 


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I’ve preached for years that Congress needs to stop trying to pass giant omnibus bills that run thousands of pages, are stuffed with superfluous side issues and are too long to read before voting on them.  It would make much more sense to break them up and fix each problem one at a time, but as they like to say at the Instapundit blog, that makes it a lot harder to hide the graft.  Which is another great reason to do it. 

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  • Anne turner

    12/21/2017 11:19 AM

    I do hope that the Democrat leadership is not as lacking in brain power as their statements indicate. I can understand why they do not like certain provisions, but why can’t they just state what they don’t like and give solid reasons why. It is hard to take things like “Armageddon”. seriously. I am sure they have some valid points, but we really don’t Know what they are specifically. No tax bill is perfect, because Congress just keeps doing virtually the same process over and over, instead of, as you say, coming up with a new fair and tidy way to handle taxation.

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    12/21/2017 11:15 AM

    The commercial ads buried within your material by "powerinbox" are suspect. These are similar to ads for ads for skin care cream that charge $4.95 for shipping and handling then hit your credit card with unfounded additional charges and begin hitting you card for an $80 per month "subscription". Therefore, until they are removed I will NOT donate to your PAC. Have your people test this out. They're scammers!

  • L D Moore

    12/21/2017 11:14 AM

    Like so many Americans, I am fed up with both sides of the aisle. Life has compromises but it seems that the American public are the only ones who have to live with those compromises made for by the elected representatives. It's past time for the career politicians to live by the same rules and laws they impose on the rest of America. The 7 tax brackets instead of 3, as promised on the campaign trail, was a failure for the Republicans by not standing up to lobbyists, the other side of the aisle and the 'hired help' from NJ, NY and CA. Now here comes the threat to shut down the government by the Democrats over DACA. Drain the swamp, shut down the IRS, close the doors and send those who are here illegally home!

  • Carol T Farmer

    12/21/2017 11:11 AM

    I agree with you 100%...at least they passed a tax bill even though it isn't perfect...hopefully they will work on it some more...
    It should be 10% for everyone including "the poor". Most people with dependent children get EIC that is almost as much as they earned all year. I think they should have to pay 10% of that as their "fair share". Just an opinion...

  • Rick Emmertson

    12/21/2017 10:58 AM

    It was difficult to pass because Queen Nancy and King Chucky decreed that their servants (dems) vote no. The repubs were shoving this tax plan down our throat and not even giving us a chance to hold our nose. I pray the POTUS has America's best interest at heart. In the famous words of Buck Rogers, "The hardest thing to tell about a politician is; Are they trying to clean up corruption, or get in on it? " #Bethegood

  • Jack Willis

    12/21/2017 10:51 AM

    I believe that although President Trump and Mike Pence are working for us, that most if not all of Congress are working to protect their own wallets. If that isn't the case then why are they so scared of a loud mouthed, bleach blond wig wearing real estate developer with no political experience? I do not remember who advocated for the flat U.S. sales tax but I think that would be wonderful. No exemptions, no loopholes. Do away with the I.R.S. like you said. Thank you, God Bless you and hoping you and your family have a very Merry Christmas. pastorjack

  • Bob Harrelson

    12/21/2017 10:49 AM

    Mike, you of all people should know getting 535 people to agree on anything is next to impossible. Campaign promises are more of a wish list than reality. There are things I don’t like about this bill and as it becomes law and is implemented I’m sure there will be other things not yet discovered that I won’t care for. However, I am pleased that congress has finally got off of their collective backsides and passed some legislation. To the democrates all of which opposed this. If you don’t stop whining and at least try and work with Republicans you are going to see a lot more happen that you don’t like. The way I see it we have the best chance in years for congress to work together. President Trump of all understands the art of compromise. Both sides should be smart enough to use that. Get some of what you want and live to (fight) or wheel and deal another day. To achieve more of what you want. If you can convince the president it is for the best he will consider anything regardless of which side it comes from.
    P.S. George Washington was right. Two political parties is destroying this country.

  • Old Nikko

    12/21/2017 10:45 AM

    Remember the Reagan 80% rule Governor... we can work on the other 20% when the time is right. 80% of a loaf is a LOT better than 00%.

  • Richard Singletary

    12/21/2017 10:41 AM

    i LOVE CONVENTION OF STATES LOVE. i WAS A T.E.A. MEMBER. VERY MUCH LIKE SARAH SANDERS. i HOPE SHE KNOWS WHEN PREGNANT CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AFFECTS THE FETUS. god bless!!! I LOVE TO MEET MISS OR MRS SANDERS!!! NO DOUBT SHE IS CHRISTIAN.

  • Carol Wilson

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    The thieving politicians in DC will not pass a real tax reform bill. The only way to benefit the people is to replace the tax code and the IRS with the FairTax bill. It is the most sensible, comprehensive fix.

  • June Winter

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    You views on taxes are right on! I so wished for you to be our President!!

  • Roy Sterling Trout

    12/21/2017 10:34 AM

    Hey anyone who doesn't like the tax cuts can give me the extra money in your paycheck next year! If you have a problem with higher wages, and more money then I don't know what to tell you!

  • pete K

    12/21/2017 10:31 AM

    Totally agree...and the idea of breaking bills to simple "one at a time issues" is a item that you should directly and openly call them out on!!

  • Bernadette Dillon

    12/21/2017 10:25 AM

    Merry Christmas Governor Huckabee to you and your family! May 2018 be a most Blessed year for you

  • Donald Klos

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    Mike,
    At least Donald Trump accomplish a start point. Like you stated, the Riff Raff in Congress (mainly Dumbocratic) load tons of non-sense into the huge bills.
    Now that we have a start to tax reform it can be further adjusted in the future. I personally think this was a good start.

    The biggest change we need is to drain the swamp of Liberal Dumbocrats like Pelosi, Schumer, Walters & the list goes on. BUT we also have traitors in the Republican party such as Ryan, McConnell and blind eyed Attorney General Sessions who all need to be ousted.
    Until we get a government represented by people who are actually for "We the People", it will always be a challenge to get good changes made.

    Thank You for being a Patriotic American and your support for Donald Trump!

  • Lorene Thompson

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    I think it is frightening that Congress has control to consider a tax reform based on what they have done in the past with our country. Congress is filled with self absorbed, spoiled, prideful, over rated intelligence, and, this is only a few of their issues, individuals that care very little about the people and what truly would help the country. We, the people, no longer exists in their eyes but We, the Congress is all that matters. It really is all about THEM!

  • Helen Corey

    12/21/2017 10:10 AM

    Banning corporate lobbyists and putting term limits on Congress would limit legislative scams on taxpayers. Pelosi, Shumer, Durbin & their ilk would have been long gone. Being retired with moderate income, thanks to frugal husband who has to reign in spending habits of non-frugal wife who likes to indulge grandkids, we won’t benefit much from tax cuts. We support President Trump who battles behemoth of big government created by his predecessors and intransigent Congress bought by lobbyists.

  • Mike Upchurch

    12/21/2017 10:03 AM

    Mike, I agree whole heartedly with you. The bill is far better that than what we have now. However it does not remove the IRS, and it still gives the power to the people in swamp rather than to our citizens.

  • William Beverly

    12/21/2017 10:01 AM

    I too would like it if congress would pass the FAIR TAX and get rid of the IRS and their 30,000 employees and billions of taxpayer dollars required to fund this useless part of government. Alas, I think it will require a convention of states and possibly an amendment to the constitution to achieve this. A convention of states could also establish a balanced budget amendment, term limits for congress and the Judiciary and other beneficial things.

    When Obamacare was passed, the IRS hired sixteen thousand new employees to police the individual mandate and the possible tax penalties. Since the individual mandate is now gone, what happens to those sixteen thousand IRS employees who are no longer needed?

    Best Regards,

    William Beverly

  • Harry Cheney

    12/21/2017 10:00 AM

    On conservative commentator said if he were president he would veto any bill longer than the Constitution. Much, if not most, of the steady march toward socialism is due to bills too long and too complicated to read and fully understand.

  • William Carter

    12/21/2017 09:59 AM

    I agree! Congress is truly a swamp. As a whole, it has become the most anti citizen group anywhere around. Congress should have been behind the “for the people” motto. With so many special interests and so many improper influences... it is so hard to believe what that group has become as a whole.

    I’m just still so disappointed!

  • Shapero, Financial Advisor

    12/21/2017 09:57 AM

    BTW where are the spending cuts?

  • Kathy fostr

    12/21/2017 09:53 AM

    The bills should deal with one issue only then they can't hide hidden agendas! Also that money is OURS and we want a flat tax! Obama used his pen, now for the people Trump needs to use his. And gun control better not get passed, we are hearing the rumbling of the consequences already! For supposedly smart people congress is endangering them selves and know it! Some of us don't want our families to suffer when war breaks out! And it will so we hear! The 2nd Amendment is Americans only safety net and they won't lose it!

  • Bob Boynton

    12/21/2017 09:50 AM

    Keep up the good fight and put Silly Hillary and Slippery Billy in jail.

  • Claudia Griffin

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I’m with you! Do away with Incone Tax and the IRA and pass a consumption tax

  • Connie Jo Freeman

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I love you Mike and your simple version of taxation! Keep preaching, God’s word and way and good, simple government. You may talk about Convention of the States but I haven’t heard you. JURISDICTION is out of wack and you have a platform to share it! God bless you, Mike, and your beloved family. Merry Christmas!

  • Jeffrey Prindle

    12/21/2017 09:47 AM

    Mr Huckabee-
    i agree with you like 98 % of the time -- i totally respect you and i thank you for all you have done and are doing.
    i again totally agree with you about the fair tax system-- it would be WONDERFUL --why do i almost never hear anyone talk about that --cure ---for our terrible complicated ta system?? is it because it would lay off millions of people who work for IRS H&R block - tax attorneys?
    please continue do what you do--
    a fan for years
    jeff prindle

  • Charles Kirkland

    12/21/2017 09:44 AM

    So true, Mr. H. Compromise is a trip. It goes without saying, that Republicans try to please everyone to do a good job, yet Democrats don't have to, because of obvious reasons. Namely POWER. POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL. The Tea Party needs to lobby harder, to get either the FairTax, or even the Cain 9-9-9 brought into consideration. Yet, the focus is not always on the people, but political grandstanding to get pet projects passed, in lieu of the right things for individual prosperity and business success.

  • Omer Causey

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Some state constitutions require single-subject bills. Article V Convention of States could add that to the US Constitution, along with term limits.

  • Michael Egbert

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Can't please everyone...at least its a start and this bill could be amended later to satisfy those with their own agendas that are making noises about the current bill not being good enough....

  • Dave Heidbreder

    12/21/2017 09:29 AM

    Merry Christmas! I too am a believer in scrapping the Tax Code and replacing it with the Fair Tax, however, since we have run up our debt so much during the last several years, we now need to retain the income tax.
    For over thirty years our Tax Code has been amended and tinkered with until it has become the monstrosity that it is today. During that time, wages have been stifled and defined benefit pension plans have all but disappeared in favor of plans such as the 401k. All the while, the rich and powerful have retained lobbyists to acquire special considerations and exceptions to taxation. The rich got richer on the backs of those that made do with stagnant wages while the cost of living was getting more expensive.

    Tax reform, Entitlement reform and Debt reduction/elimination go hand in hand. Currently, our Tax Code is ridiculously complicated with approximately 80,000 pages. It simply needs to be scrapped! (Repealed and replaced). Reform should occur from the bottom up. In other words, if income will continue to be taxed, any exemptions should start with the first dollar. Ideally, most income should be exempt from taxation since income taxation is counter productive. Why should the first dollar of earned income be taxed when when many wage earners are included in poverty level incomes? Payroll taxes are taxes on income. When income is exempted from payroll taxation, both the employer and employee share in the savings since employers match what is deducted from employee wages.

    Entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits are currently funded primarily from payroll taxes deducted from workers wages. Unfortunately, that only makes each wage earner feel “entitled” to get all that money back at sometime in the future when, in reality, Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits were originally instituted as safety nets for those who were unable to work or became indigent.

    Our new Tax Code should be written succinctly and so that it can be easily understood. Because of the huge amount of debt, perhaps a new “modified” Fair Tax Bill (HR 25) should be considered. Unfortunately, the Fair Tax bill must be modified to permit the continuance of the income tax and payroll taxes so that our country can more quickly dig ourselves out of debt and possibly eventually even become debt free!

    In order to remove the illusion that we are saving money for our own purposes instead of providing for the indigent, the income tax and payroll taxes should be changed to exempt the first two hundred thousand dollars of income; essentially eliminating the ability for all but a small percentage of earners from suggesting that they are “paying” for their retirement and medical benefits.

    The Fair Tax is a tax on consumption and necessarily provides for a prebate which is a payment from the government to each household to cover what each household would need to pay in sales tax up to a designated poverty level of income so that no-one’s spending would be penalized up to that certain level.

    Since each household would be getting the prebate, it could also be used as a vehicle to dole out other government benefits such as food stamps for those who qualify, housing benefits etc. If one is found guilty of cheating or defrauding the government, benefits could be withheld for whatever period necessary to repay the government.

    The Fair Tax consumption tax is an inclusive tax meaning that the tax would already be included in the price of each good or service purchased. In other words a $1 candy bar, for example, would be $1 at checkout, not $1 plus the consumption tax. The seller would be required to take the tax out of the $1 and send it in to the government. The consumption tax would be set at a rate that would replace what would have normally have been provided by income tax. Taxing in this way would be much more palatable for everyone while at the same time not increasing debt!

    All income over $200000 would be taxed and said taxes could be used to pay down debt since the consumption taxes, along with payroll taxes on incomes over $200000, would be providing the revenue for all other government expenditures. Income taxes could be linked to some kind of debt level measurement. In other words, when debt reaches a designated level, income taxes would kick in, until our debt was reduced back to said designated level. The beauty of this concept is that there would be no need for more than one marginal bracket and the percentage would be be a small number as opposed to the draconian rates of today.

    Currently, the Social Security Retirement Survivor and Disability Benefits are based on a complicated formula based on the number of quarters worked and the amount of earned income upon which payroll taxes were based. Under the proposed tax reform, the maximum allowed benefit could be capped at its present rate until the lower benefits are gradually increased according to inflation, until they reach today's maximum (capped) level, at which time the cap could be removed, and only increased as needed. This would help save and extend Social Security by bringing it under control and at the same time gradually bringing the benefit paid to beneficiaries to an equal amount so that there would be no discrimination. After all, why should one person's safety net be more than an others?

    Since payroll and income taxes would essentially be eliminated for most wage earners, they would have more disposable income to afford health insurance and HSA's, college tuition and retirement saving plans (as well as other things.) Business owners would have more profit since they wouldn't have to pay payroll taxes on the first $200000 of an employee's wages. Some of said profits would then be reinvested in more capital expenditures and more jobs!

    Other positive results of this proposed tax reform would be 1.) that the number of taxpayers (the tax base) would be increased since consumption in the form of spending is done by everyone including those tax cheats that fail to file income tax returns, drug lords that do not pay income tax on their ill gotten gains but spend lavishly, other income not taxed from organized crime such as gambling and prostitution etc.. There is also all the money spent by foreign visitors (tourists) and even illegal alien visitors that would contribute to the welfare and safety nets for all of us who die prematurely or become disabled and aged. 2.) Tax evasion would be harder. 3.) And tax collection and enforcement would be easier and cheaper. 4.) Businesses and entrepreneurs wouldn't have to worry about payroll and self-employment taxes except for the few that are being paid more than $200,000 per year. 5.) Most, if not all, workers would see an immediate increase in take home pay. 6.) It would be unnecessary to be concerned with tax deductions providing for a much less stressful way of life. 7.) Those fortunate enough to earn more than $200,000 per year could not complain about those less fortunate not paying taxes since they, themselves would not be paying anything on their first $200,000 either. 8.) U. S. employers would be more able to compete with foreign employers and 9.) foreign employers would be more willing to open factories here. With more employment comes more spending and more revenue.
    And finally but importantly, it would be easier to estimate revenues!

    I realize that this is simply a rough draft but it would be a good start! Please, Oh Please, do not simply tinker with our current monstrosity of a tax code. Scrap it!

    Sincerely,

    Dave Heidbreder
    416 N Ludlow St
    Olney, Il. 62450

  • Jim Lindstrom

    12/21/2017 09:28 AM

    Why couldn’t the President use an “executive order “ and take away Congress benefits and put them on our health care program and Social Security and take away the slush fund they use for their own benefit. Obama used his powers to do what he thought was good for him and his party. ???

  • Burney Fordham

    12/21/2017 09:27 AM

    Gov Huckabee, I noticed you mentioned the Fair Tax in your article... If you had been elected President, would you have fought for that? It still amazes me today how many folks have never heard about. I listened to Neil Boortz talk radio for years and he was an authority on it. I believe that the Fair Tax (HR 25) is the way to go but the wheel horses in DC and the IRS are too important to let it happen... Keep on wring Governor!!!!!

  • Greg Hunter

    12/21/2017 09:24 AM

    That would make TOO MUCH SENSE ??

  • Lindell H.(Bill) Bonney Sr.

    12/21/2017 09:19 AM

    At least the basic tax layout is in place. I would think forward thinking people would be able to now quietly single out an item that is less than perfect and address it.

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:11 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:10 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • Stephen J. Redwine

    12/21/2017 08:49 AM

    Hi Mike,

    Thank you for doing what you do to try to help our country. Regarding taxes, the great majority of people I speak with simply think that corporations should pay more and that they should pay less. What almost NONE of them realize is that the individual end user pays all of the taxes -- corporations only collect taxes, but they build them into the price of their products. These taxes are then "hidden" from the end user.

    I would like to see the Republicans educate people that the Democrats are trying to hide the cost of government from them!

    Best regards,

    Steve...

  • Henry Long Jr

    12/21/2017 08:48 AM

    Enjoyed your comments on why it was so hard to pass a tax bill, especially the comment on "hiding the graft". Unfortunately the VAST MAJORITY of our elected officials stand for nothing more than re-election and lining their pockets. If that happens to help their constituency, GREAT!! If it doesn't, sorry about that!! We need to start a MASSIVE drive for TERM LIMITS!!

Why it was so hard to pass tax reform

December 21, 2017 |

Fox Business host Trish Regan slammed President Trump and the GOP tax reform bill because it fails to keep Trump’s campaign promise to do away with the carried interest deduction.  That lets investors reclassify their income to pay a lower rate than salaried workers.  

I happen to agree with her on this issue, and several others.  For instance, I’m disappointed that the bill keeps seven tax brackets.  I’m disappointed that they had to strike the clause allowing families to put their own money into education savings accounts for their kids’ schooling. Heck, I’m disappointed that it doesn’t disband the IRS, or scrap the entire horrendous tax code and replace it with the Fair Tax.  But in the immortal words of Mick Jagger, “You can’t always get what you want.”

But that’s one of many drawbacks of trying to scrape up support to pass a huge bill of any type.  Congress members can always find that one detail they don’t like to use as an excuse to vote no and let the perfect be the enemy of the good. That’s why we still have Obamacare (at least this bill includes a repeal of the onerous mandate to buy unwanted and unaffordable insurance or else pay a tax penalty) and why this is the first major overhaul of our oppressive, unwieldy and widely-hated tax code in over 30 years. 


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I’ve preached for years that Congress needs to stop trying to pass giant omnibus bills that run thousands of pages, are stuffed with superfluous side issues and are too long to read before voting on them.  It would make much more sense to break them up and fix each problem one at a time, but as they like to say at the Instapundit blog, that makes it a lot harder to hide the graft.  Which is another great reason to do it. 

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  • Anne turner

    12/21/2017 11:19 AM

    I do hope that the Democrat leadership is not as lacking in brain power as their statements indicate. I can understand why they do not like certain provisions, but why can’t they just state what they don’t like and give solid reasons why. It is hard to take things like “Armageddon”. seriously. I am sure they have some valid points, but we really don’t Know what they are specifically. No tax bill is perfect, because Congress just keeps doing virtually the same process over and over, instead of, as you say, coming up with a new fair and tidy way to handle taxation.

  • donald h smith

    12/21/2017 11:15 AM

    The commercial ads buried within your material by "powerinbox" are suspect. These are similar to ads for ads for skin care cream that charge $4.95 for shipping and handling then hit your credit card with unfounded additional charges and begin hitting you card for an $80 per month "subscription". Therefore, until they are removed I will NOT donate to your PAC. Have your people test this out. They're scammers!

  • L D Moore

    12/21/2017 11:14 AM

    Like so many Americans, I am fed up with both sides of the aisle. Life has compromises but it seems that the American public are the only ones who have to live with those compromises made for by the elected representatives. It's past time for the career politicians to live by the same rules and laws they impose on the rest of America. The 7 tax brackets instead of 3, as promised on the campaign trail, was a failure for the Republicans by not standing up to lobbyists, the other side of the aisle and the 'hired help' from NJ, NY and CA. Now here comes the threat to shut down the government by the Democrats over DACA. Drain the swamp, shut down the IRS, close the doors and send those who are here illegally home!

  • Carol T Farmer

    12/21/2017 11:11 AM

    I agree with you 100%...at least they passed a tax bill even though it isn't perfect...hopefully they will work on it some more...
    It should be 10% for everyone including "the poor". Most people with dependent children get EIC that is almost as much as they earned all year. I think they should have to pay 10% of that as their "fair share". Just an opinion...

  • Rick Emmertson

    12/21/2017 10:58 AM

    It was difficult to pass because Queen Nancy and King Chucky decreed that their servants (dems) vote no. The repubs were shoving this tax plan down our throat and not even giving us a chance to hold our nose. I pray the POTUS has America's best interest at heart. In the famous words of Buck Rogers, "The hardest thing to tell about a politician is; Are they trying to clean up corruption, or get in on it? " #Bethegood

  • Jack Willis

    12/21/2017 10:51 AM

    I believe that although President Trump and Mike Pence are working for us, that most if not all of Congress are working to protect their own wallets. If that isn't the case then why are they so scared of a loud mouthed, bleach blond wig wearing real estate developer with no political experience? I do not remember who advocated for the flat U.S. sales tax but I think that would be wonderful. No exemptions, no loopholes. Do away with the I.R.S. like you said. Thank you, God Bless you and hoping you and your family have a very Merry Christmas. pastorjack

  • Bob Harrelson

    12/21/2017 10:49 AM

    Mike, you of all people should know getting 535 people to agree on anything is next to impossible. Campaign promises are more of a wish list than reality. There are things I don’t like about this bill and as it becomes law and is implemented I’m sure there will be other things not yet discovered that I won’t care for. However, I am pleased that congress has finally got off of their collective backsides and passed some legislation. To the democrates all of which opposed this. If you don’t stop whining and at least try and work with Republicans you are going to see a lot more happen that you don’t like. The way I see it we have the best chance in years for congress to work together. President Trump of all understands the art of compromise. Both sides should be smart enough to use that. Get some of what you want and live to (fight) or wheel and deal another day. To achieve more of what you want. If you can convince the president it is for the best he will consider anything regardless of which side it comes from.
    P.S. George Washington was right. Two political parties is destroying this country.

  • Old Nikko

    12/21/2017 10:45 AM

    Remember the Reagan 80% rule Governor... we can work on the other 20% when the time is right. 80% of a loaf is a LOT better than 00%.

  • Richard Singletary

    12/21/2017 10:41 AM

    i LOVE CONVENTION OF STATES LOVE. i WAS A T.E.A. MEMBER. VERY MUCH LIKE SARAH SANDERS. i HOPE SHE KNOWS WHEN PREGNANT CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AFFECTS THE FETUS. god bless!!! I LOVE TO MEET MISS OR MRS SANDERS!!! NO DOUBT SHE IS CHRISTIAN.

  • Carol Wilson

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    The thieving politicians in DC will not pass a real tax reform bill. The only way to benefit the people is to replace the tax code and the IRS with the FairTax bill. It is the most sensible, comprehensive fix.

  • June Winter

    12/21/2017 10:37 AM

    You views on taxes are right on! I so wished for you to be our President!!

  • Roy Sterling Trout

    12/21/2017 10:34 AM

    Hey anyone who doesn't like the tax cuts can give me the extra money in your paycheck next year! If you have a problem with higher wages, and more money then I don't know what to tell you!

  • pete K

    12/21/2017 10:31 AM

    Totally agree...and the idea of breaking bills to simple "one at a time issues" is a item that you should directly and openly call them out on!!

  • Bernadette Dillon

    12/21/2017 10:25 AM

    Merry Christmas Governor Huckabee to you and your family! May 2018 be a most Blessed year for you

  • Donald Klos

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    Mike,
    At least Donald Trump accomplish a start point. Like you stated, the Riff Raff in Congress (mainly Dumbocratic) load tons of non-sense into the huge bills.
    Now that we have a start to tax reform it can be further adjusted in the future. I personally think this was a good start.

    The biggest change we need is to drain the swamp of Liberal Dumbocrats like Pelosi, Schumer, Walters & the list goes on. BUT we also have traitors in the Republican party such as Ryan, McConnell and blind eyed Attorney General Sessions who all need to be ousted.
    Until we get a government represented by people who are actually for "We the People", it will always be a challenge to get good changes made.

    Thank You for being a Patriotic American and your support for Donald Trump!

  • Lorene Thompson

    12/21/2017 10:18 AM

    I think it is frightening that Congress has control to consider a tax reform based on what they have done in the past with our country. Congress is filled with self absorbed, spoiled, prideful, over rated intelligence, and, this is only a few of their issues, individuals that care very little about the people and what truly would help the country. We, the people, no longer exists in their eyes but We, the Congress is all that matters. It really is all about THEM!

  • Helen Corey

    12/21/2017 10:10 AM

    Banning corporate lobbyists and putting term limits on Congress would limit legislative scams on taxpayers. Pelosi, Shumer, Durbin & their ilk would have been long gone. Being retired with moderate income, thanks to frugal husband who has to reign in spending habits of non-frugal wife who likes to indulge grandkids, we won’t benefit much from tax cuts. We support President Trump who battles behemoth of big government created by his predecessors and intransigent Congress bought by lobbyists.

  • Mike Upchurch

    12/21/2017 10:03 AM

    Mike, I agree whole heartedly with you. The bill is far better that than what we have now. However it does not remove the IRS, and it still gives the power to the people in swamp rather than to our citizens.

  • William Beverly

    12/21/2017 10:01 AM

    I too would like it if congress would pass the FAIR TAX and get rid of the IRS and their 30,000 employees and billions of taxpayer dollars required to fund this useless part of government. Alas, I think it will require a convention of states and possibly an amendment to the constitution to achieve this. A convention of states could also establish a balanced budget amendment, term limits for congress and the Judiciary and other beneficial things.

    When Obamacare was passed, the IRS hired sixteen thousand new employees to police the individual mandate and the possible tax penalties. Since the individual mandate is now gone, what happens to those sixteen thousand IRS employees who are no longer needed?

    Best Regards,

    William Beverly

  • Harry Cheney

    12/21/2017 10:00 AM

    On conservative commentator said if he were president he would veto any bill longer than the Constitution. Much, if not most, of the steady march toward socialism is due to bills too long and too complicated to read and fully understand.

  • William Carter

    12/21/2017 09:59 AM

    I agree! Congress is truly a swamp. As a whole, it has become the most anti citizen group anywhere around. Congress should have been behind the “for the people” motto. With so many special interests and so many improper influences... it is so hard to believe what that group has become as a whole.

    I’m just still so disappointed!

  • Shapero, Financial Advisor

    12/21/2017 09:57 AM

    BTW where are the spending cuts?

  • Kathy fostr

    12/21/2017 09:53 AM

    The bills should deal with one issue only then they can't hide hidden agendas! Also that money is OURS and we want a flat tax! Obama used his pen, now for the people Trump needs to use his. And gun control better not get passed, we are hearing the rumbling of the consequences already! For supposedly smart people congress is endangering them selves and know it! Some of us don't want our families to suffer when war breaks out! And it will so we hear! The 2nd Amendment is Americans only safety net and they won't lose it!

  • Bob Boynton

    12/21/2017 09:50 AM

    Keep up the good fight and put Silly Hillary and Slippery Billy in jail.

  • Claudia Griffin

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I’m with you! Do away with Incone Tax and the IRA and pass a consumption tax

  • Connie Jo Freeman

    12/21/2017 09:48 AM

    I love you Mike and your simple version of taxation! Keep preaching, God’s word and way and good, simple government. You may talk about Convention of the States but I haven’t heard you. JURISDICTION is out of wack and you have a platform to share it! God bless you, Mike, and your beloved family. Merry Christmas!

  • Jeffrey Prindle

    12/21/2017 09:47 AM

    Mr Huckabee-
    i agree with you like 98 % of the time -- i totally respect you and i thank you for all you have done and are doing.
    i again totally agree with you about the fair tax system-- it would be WONDERFUL --why do i almost never hear anyone talk about that --cure ---for our terrible complicated ta system?? is it because it would lay off millions of people who work for IRS H&R block - tax attorneys?
    please continue do what you do--
    a fan for years
    jeff prindle

  • Charles Kirkland

    12/21/2017 09:44 AM

    So true, Mr. H. Compromise is a trip. It goes without saying, that Republicans try to please everyone to do a good job, yet Democrats don't have to, because of obvious reasons. Namely POWER. POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL. The Tea Party needs to lobby harder, to get either the FairTax, or even the Cain 9-9-9 brought into consideration. Yet, the focus is not always on the people, but political grandstanding to get pet projects passed, in lieu of the right things for individual prosperity and business success.

  • Omer Causey

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Some state constitutions require single-subject bills. Article V Convention of States could add that to the US Constitution, along with term limits.

  • Michael Egbert

    12/21/2017 09:31 AM

    Can't please everyone...at least its a start and this bill could be amended later to satisfy those with their own agendas that are making noises about the current bill not being good enough....

  • Dave Heidbreder

    12/21/2017 09:29 AM

    Merry Christmas! I too am a believer in scrapping the Tax Code and replacing it with the Fair Tax, however, since we have run up our debt so much during the last several years, we now need to retain the income tax.
    For over thirty years our Tax Code has been amended and tinkered with until it has become the monstrosity that it is today. During that time, wages have been stifled and defined benefit pension plans have all but disappeared in favor of plans such as the 401k. All the while, the rich and powerful have retained lobbyists to acquire special considerations and exceptions to taxation. The rich got richer on the backs of those that made do with stagnant wages while the cost of living was getting more expensive.

    Tax reform, Entitlement reform and Debt reduction/elimination go hand in hand. Currently, our Tax Code is ridiculously complicated with approximately 80,000 pages. It simply needs to be scrapped! (Repealed and replaced). Reform should occur from the bottom up. In other words, if income will continue to be taxed, any exemptions should start with the first dollar. Ideally, most income should be exempt from taxation since income taxation is counter productive. Why should the first dollar of earned income be taxed when when many wage earners are included in poverty level incomes? Payroll taxes are taxes on income. When income is exempted from payroll taxation, both the employer and employee share in the savings since employers match what is deducted from employee wages.

    Entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits are currently funded primarily from payroll taxes deducted from workers wages. Unfortunately, that only makes each wage earner feel “entitled” to get all that money back at sometime in the future when, in reality, Medicare and Social Security Survivor, Disability & Retirement benefits were originally instituted as safety nets for those who were unable to work or became indigent.

    Our new Tax Code should be written succinctly and so that it can be easily understood. Because of the huge amount of debt, perhaps a new “modified” Fair Tax Bill (HR 25) should be considered. Unfortunately, the Fair Tax bill must be modified to permit the continuance of the income tax and payroll taxes so that our country can more quickly dig ourselves out of debt and possibly eventually even become debt free!

    In order to remove the illusion that we are saving money for our own purposes instead of providing for the indigent, the income tax and payroll taxes should be changed to exempt the first two hundred thousand dollars of income; essentially eliminating the ability for all but a small percentage of earners from suggesting that they are “paying” for their retirement and medical benefits.

    The Fair Tax is a tax on consumption and necessarily provides for a prebate which is a payment from the government to each household to cover what each household would need to pay in sales tax up to a designated poverty level of income so that no-one’s spending would be penalized up to that certain level.

    Since each household would be getting the prebate, it could also be used as a vehicle to dole out other government benefits such as food stamps for those who qualify, housing benefits etc. If one is found guilty of cheating or defrauding the government, benefits could be withheld for whatever period necessary to repay the government.

    The Fair Tax consumption tax is an inclusive tax meaning that the tax would already be included in the price of each good or service purchased. In other words a $1 candy bar, for example, would be $1 at checkout, not $1 plus the consumption tax. The seller would be required to take the tax out of the $1 and send it in to the government. The consumption tax would be set at a rate that would replace what would have normally have been provided by income tax. Taxing in this way would be much more palatable for everyone while at the same time not increasing debt!

    All income over $200000 would be taxed and said taxes could be used to pay down debt since the consumption taxes, along with payroll taxes on incomes over $200000, would be providing the revenue for all other government expenditures. Income taxes could be linked to some kind of debt level measurement. In other words, when debt reaches a designated level, income taxes would kick in, until our debt was reduced back to said designated level. The beauty of this concept is that there would be no need for more than one marginal bracket and the percentage would be be a small number as opposed to the draconian rates of today.

    Currently, the Social Security Retirement Survivor and Disability Benefits are based on a complicated formula based on the number of quarters worked and the amount of earned income upon which payroll taxes were based. Under the proposed tax reform, the maximum allowed benefit could be capped at its present rate until the lower benefits are gradually increased according to inflation, until they reach today's maximum (capped) level, at which time the cap could be removed, and only increased as needed. This would help save and extend Social Security by bringing it under control and at the same time gradually bringing the benefit paid to beneficiaries to an equal amount so that there would be no discrimination. After all, why should one person's safety net be more than an others?

    Since payroll and income taxes would essentially be eliminated for most wage earners, they would have more disposable income to afford health insurance and HSA's, college tuition and retirement saving plans (as well as other things.) Business owners would have more profit since they wouldn't have to pay payroll taxes on the first $200000 of an employee's wages. Some of said profits would then be reinvested in more capital expenditures and more jobs!

    Other positive results of this proposed tax reform would be 1.) that the number of taxpayers (the tax base) would be increased since consumption in the form of spending is done by everyone including those tax cheats that fail to file income tax returns, drug lords that do not pay income tax on their ill gotten gains but spend lavishly, other income not taxed from organized crime such as gambling and prostitution etc.. There is also all the money spent by foreign visitors (tourists) and even illegal alien visitors that would contribute to the welfare and safety nets for all of us who die prematurely or become disabled and aged. 2.) Tax evasion would be harder. 3.) And tax collection and enforcement would be easier and cheaper. 4.) Businesses and entrepreneurs wouldn't have to worry about payroll and self-employment taxes except for the few that are being paid more than $200,000 per year. 5.) Most, if not all, workers would see an immediate increase in take home pay. 6.) It would be unnecessary to be concerned with tax deductions providing for a much less stressful way of life. 7.) Those fortunate enough to earn more than $200,000 per year could not complain about those less fortunate not paying taxes since they, themselves would not be paying anything on their first $200,000 either. 8.) U. S. employers would be more able to compete with foreign employers and 9.) foreign employers would be more willing to open factories here. With more employment comes more spending and more revenue.
    And finally but importantly, it would be easier to estimate revenues!

    I realize that this is simply a rough draft but it would be a good start! Please, Oh Please, do not simply tinker with our current monstrosity of a tax code. Scrap it!

    Sincerely,

    Dave Heidbreder
    416 N Ludlow St
    Olney, Il. 62450

  • Jim Lindstrom

    12/21/2017 09:28 AM

    Why couldn’t the President use an “executive order “ and take away Congress benefits and put them on our health care program and Social Security and take away the slush fund they use for their own benefit. Obama used his powers to do what he thought was good for him and his party. ???

  • Burney Fordham

    12/21/2017 09:27 AM

    Gov Huckabee, I noticed you mentioned the Fair Tax in your article... If you had been elected President, would you have fought for that? It still amazes me today how many folks have never heard about. I listened to Neil Boortz talk radio for years and he was an authority on it. I believe that the Fair Tax (HR 25) is the way to go but the wheel horses in DC and the IRS are too important to let it happen... Keep on wring Governor!!!!!

  • Greg Hunter

    12/21/2017 09:24 AM

    That would make TOO MUCH SENSE ??

  • Lindell H.(Bill) Bonney Sr.

    12/21/2017 09:19 AM

    At least the basic tax layout is in place. I would think forward thinking people would be able to now quietly single out an item that is less than perfect and address it.

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:11 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • David Binz Sr

    12/21/2017 09:10 AM

    Now that this tax bill ends the tax mandate for the ACA what happens to all those IT'S agents hired to enforce this mandate? Shouldn't they be terminated?

  • Stephen J. Redwine

    12/21/2017 08:49 AM

    Hi Mike,

    Thank you for doing what you do to try to help our country. Regarding taxes, the great majority of people I speak with simply think that corporations should pay more and that they should pay less. What almost NONE of them realize is that the individual end user pays all of the taxes -- corporations only collect taxes, but they build them into the price of their products. These taxes are then "hidden" from the end user.

    I would like to see the Republicans educate people that the Democrats are trying to hide the cost of government from them!

    Best regards,

    Steve...

  • Henry Long Jr

    12/21/2017 08:48 AM

    Enjoyed your comments on why it was so hard to pass a tax bill, especially the comment on "hiding the graft". Unfortunately the VAST MAJORITY of our elected officials stand for nothing more than re-election and lining their pockets. If that happens to help their constituency, GREAT!! If it doesn't, sorry about that!! We need to start a MASSIVE drive for TERM LIMITS!!