One thing to keep in mind as the “cascade” of stunning information about the FBI/DOJ keeps cascading is that we still know just a tiny fraction of all the day-to-day goings-on. We might have thought we had seen all of the Peter Strzok and Lisa Page texts about insurance policies and such, which are pretty compelling by themselves. But there’s more: now we see there was overt reference to activity that, really, can only be interpreted (by any rational person) as an attempt to infiltrate President-elect Trump’s transition team.


We know about this through investigative reporters Catherine Herridge and Sara Carter, who reported that Sens. Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin have sent a letter to Attorney General Bill Barr to schedule a briefing by May 9 regarding particular Strzok-Page texts that suggest “improper FBI surveillance activities.” Barr has said he does believe spying took place –- and he dared to use “that word,” SPYING –- and these texts certainly lend support to that point of view.

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In the texts, which begin on November 17, nine days after the 2016 election, Strzok references a briefing with Mike Pence and then tells Page he’s talking with [former FBI official] Bill Priestap and asks her if she wants Joe [FBI special agent Joe Pientka, whose name is familiar because he and Strzok interviewed Gen. Michael Flynn] to “go with” Evanina [William Evanina of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center] instead of Charli “for a variety of reasons.” (He’s talking about a briefing, but we don’t know whether it’s a routine intelligence briefing or a formal transition briefing.) Page texts back that she’s not sure, asking, “Would it be unusual to have [space] show up again? Maybe another agent from the team?”


Strzok texts her: “Or, he’s ‘the CI [counterintelligence] guy.’ Same.might make sense. He can assess if [there] are any new Qs, or different demeanor. If Katie’s husband is there, HE CAN SEE IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WE CAN DEVELOP FOR POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIPS.” (Emphasis mine.)


Page answers him: “Should I ask Andy [McCabe] about it? Or Bill [Priestap} want to reach out for Andy?” Strzok responds: “I told him I’m sure we could ask you to make the swap if we thought it.”


According to Sara Carter, “The texts and sources reveal that Strzok had one significant contact within the White House --- Vice President Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff Joshua Pitcock, whose wife [Katherine] was working as an analyst for Strzok on the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server. A senior White House official told this news site that Pitcock’s wife recused herself from the Clinton investigation as soon as Pence and Trump became the Republican nominees in July of 2016.” Carter was also told that Pitcock’s wife stopped working for Strzok at that time as well.

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It seems likely that “Katie” refers to Pitcock’s wife Katherine, and thus “Katie’s husband” would be Pitcock, but this is still speculation.


One extremely troublesome part of this communication is the reference to developing people for potential relationships. This is what spies –- er, I mean “counterintelligence professionals” –- do. It’s a HUGE part of what they do. They find people they can turn into assets; at times these are unwitting dupes, but they can also be coerced in some way, often through blackmail. Talk of “developing relationships” suggests very strongly that an attempt was being made to infiltrate the Trump transition team.


Additional note from Laura Ainsworth: If you’re interested in knowing more about the way spies operate, I’d like to recommend a great book, “DEEP UNDER COVER: MY Secret Life & Tangled Allegiances as a KGB Spy in America” by Jack Barsky. He was a real-life Soviet spy, an “illegal” who posed for years as an American (as he spoke flawless English with no discernible accent) to gather information. It was the story of his life as an “illegal” that inspired the F/X television series THE AMERICANS (which, though pretty ghastly in the violence department, is also extremely informative about the many ways asset-development can be accomplished).


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  • Tamera Gaskin

    05/24/2019 12:21 PM

    As a hardworking taxpayer in this country and I honestly say that I am both ashamed and disgusted by what is currently playing out in our nations capital. This current democratic party and some republicans as well are no better than the mob. They have set themselves up in these positions and set up house for a lifetime and gotten filthy rich off special interest, lined their pocketbooks and committed God only knows how many crimes and the American people have sat back and allowed it to happen! Until the American public demands term limits and gets these lifers out of there the corruption will continue. These people are selling our country and Americans out for profit, then try to call someone else a crook! What hypocrites they are. Biden, Pelosi, Maxie, the list goes on, get rid of them all! Obama was a pawn that was played well, his entire Presidency was well planned and orchestrated and hopefully the key players are about to face the wrath, including him and the Clintons.

  • Don Crumbley

    04/30/2019 07:08 PM

    Gov: In any other country, that does not follow the "Rule of Law", these government employed spies would get a one-way ticket to boot hill at sunrise. I am waiting to see, if the "Rule of Law" still works in the USA for the "untouchables" and all of these characters that supported the "untouchables", get what they justly deserve in our system, for attempting to undermine a dully elected government.

  • Jerry Korba

    04/30/2019 10:37 AM

    The reason the world is in trouble. Look at what the Obama Administration concerns were Spying on the Trump Campaign, Discarding Bernie the Bum Sanders from getting the Dem. Nomination, allowing Isis to become a dangerous group, suppling Iran with money to fund terrorism, Giving uranium to the Russians, forgetting to protect Americans in Bengasgyi, Iran Deal, shutting down energy production, those issues are what our problems were yesterday. People need to know that President Trump with one hand tied behind his back had to fix those problems I look at Trump as a blessing from above without Trump this country was on its way to a destructive state. You can see the evil coming from Pelosi and the left and her destructive behavior that is part 1 part 2 is the hate for Jews White people and conservative people, the hate for the Constitution is very clear every day they continue to pound America. It is time for the real Americans to stand up and demand it to stop take off the gloves and put on the MAGA hats wear them to church the Mall, Stores wear them to Wall Street the corn fields gas stations the Restaurants Ball games yea Maxie we will be coming for your idiot mentality time for talk should be over you can not argue with idiots they have to be convinced MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wear the hats be prepared to defend this country......

  • Paul Stoneburner Burke, VA

    04/30/2019 01:14 AM

    I'm concerned about the proliferation of "hate crime" charges. As Orwell warned us, we now have the beginnings of, and some would say much more than the beginnings of, Big Brother, doublethink and thoughtcrime; in which the government’s Ministry of Truth controls information: news, entertainment, education, and the arts. For example, if I get drunk in a bar and stomp you, I’ll be charged with drunk & disorderly, fighting, breach of peace, and probably a bunch of other things. But if you are of a different race than mine, I’ll likely also be charged with a “hate crime.” And exactly what is that except Orwell’s thoughtcrime? I am to be additionally punished based on what someone else thinks were my thoughts or motivations. I think serious charges and punishment should be levied for the crime actually committed and not for what one allegedly was thinking. Forget all this "hate crime" nonsense.

  • Ken Truell

    04/29/2019 08:12 PM


    Isn’t it amazing just how blatant these people are in their attempts to invalidate the 2016 election? They feel like they are invincible and justified in their endeavors. Sort of sounds like the textbook description of sociopathic behavior to me. But I am just a Deplorable, so what do I know?

  • Robbie Mize

    04/29/2019 02:37 PM

    Thank you for keeping us informed. I am not sure we will even be able to absorb all the truth when it finally comes out because it is so terrible, I think my mind might just explode. Yet, I pray for truth regardless.

  • Howell j Gannon

    04/29/2019 02:00 PM

    I have been a staunch backer of President Trump from the beginning. I’m sure you don’t remember me but I was the pilot that flew you and your lovely wife from Iowa to Destin after you won the caucus. Been a fan of yours ever since and was so happy to see you back President Trump after he won the nomination. I have supported President Trump’s Campaign financially but have had to cut back since Hurricane Michael struck our lovely City of Lynn Haven. We were personally truly blessed and spared major damage to our home but not so lucky with my Wife’s condo. We have many friends and neighbors that are still suffering. It will be a long time before our great Bay County, Florida will recover. The disaster relief the government promised is essential in that recovery. I know you have a little influence at the White House. It would be a Blessing to all in Bay County if you would put in a good word for our forgotten community. Looking forward to President Trump’s Rally at Panama City Beach on May 8th. The beach was spared but remainder of the county was not. Responding to your article, I look forward to the day that the those working to undermine our President in the FBI, CIA, and DOJ will be held accountable for the relentless liberal bashing during his first 2 years in office. Bless you and all your family. We love the Huckabee Show.
    Thanks, Jim Gannon


    04/29/2019 12:50 PM

    Governor Huckabee:
    So glad to hear that after over 2 years someone will be looking into the Hillary mess and the spying on Trump. Sara Carter and John Solomon should receive medals for their "real" reporting on all the horse manure that has been put out that the dumbos thought the American people would believe. I am sure Bill Barr is not stupid and with Devin Nunes and others out there feeding him the "good stuff" justice will prevail in the end.
    Thank You
    Carmen Price
    Reno, NV

  • Oscar R Williams

    04/29/2019 12:20 PM

    "This is what SPIES DO." (And they never sleep.)

  • Robert McFate

    04/29/2019 12:13 PM

    The loud noise you are hearing from the left over Barr's use of the word spying is because they know they have been catch and are trying to misdirect the conversation!

  • Karlene Sullivan

    04/29/2019 12:08 PM

    I don’t care if Donald Trump was Jesus Christ they would crucify him, why are we so surprised of the evil and contempt of the human race Jesus didn’t do anything wrong when he was crucified. All I see is evil in the Democratic Party. They will never be held accountable.