On the radio show I used to do, a stunningly deep-voiced announcer would occasionally bring us out of a commercial break by intoning: “He’s conservative...but he’s not mad at anybody about it.” And it’s true, I took a good-natured approach to politics and the topics of the day, without the seething vitriol and intolerance that we get blasted with all too often and just don’t need.

But I think it’s time to get mad. And it’s time to junk the special counsel law and find other ways to investigate REAL wrongdoing. I say this because now that you can stick a fork in the Mueller report because it’s done, people whose lives were ripped inside out by Robert Mueller’s special counsel are coming forward and talking about what they went through. These aren’t just the major players; some of them were way out on the periphery of the story, just normal people living their lives (or trying to), victims of what can only be called a (yes) witch hunt, a fishing expedition, a search-and-destroy mission.

Or, as Paul Sperry described the process earlier this month in a piece for RealClearPolitics, scorched-earth tactics.

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Many thanks to Scott Johnson at PowerLineBlog for drawing attention to Sperry’s article, “’Scorched Earth’: Mueller’s Targets Speak Out,” which came out on June 6 but didn’t get the notice it should have. (Even the Huckabee team didn’t see it when it was first posted, and we don’t miss much!) Sperry talked to ten people, some of whom have been publicly connected by name to the investigation –- George Papadopoulos, Carter Page –- and some of whom were simply unfortunate enough to have crossed paths with someone investigators wanted to crack.

What they went through should not happen in this country. Almost all of them used the term “scorched earth” when talking to Sperry to describe Mueller’s tactics, which they said damaged their physical, mental and financial health. They had to hire high-priced Washington attorneys to help them avoid Mueller’s carefully crafted perjury traps. Some said Mueller’s agents tried to pressure them into saying things that would have given the appearance of collusion. The agents demanded to know if they had spoken to anyone with a “Russian accent.” (I am not kidding.) They threatened to throw them into jail “for life.” They threatened to go after their wives or girlfriends.

When journalist Art Moore saw two men in suits show up at the door of his Seattle home, he thought they must be Jehovah’s Witnesses. But they were FBI agents –- cyber experts –- sent there by Robert Mueller to interrogate him. They grilled him on the spot (no lawyer) for about 90 minutes, trying to find out if Trump had any connection to the Wikileaks release in 2016 of thousands of Hillary’s hacked emails. Apparently, they thought that because Moore was an editor for the news site WND.com, he might have information to share with them about former WND correspondent Jerome Corsi, who was friends with Trump and had communicated with Roger Stone.

Moore later said they were clearly on a fishing expedition, and a kind of desperate one at that. The agents assured him that he wasn’t a target of the investigation, but he believes the special counsel secretly looked into his personal emails, texts and phone records. Others who spoke to Sperry said the same thing, with some adding travel records such as hotel and flight information to the list. They said investigators were literally poking around in their garbage cans.

Some have formally complained to the Justice Department that their privacy was violated. Others have filed legal complaints. Jerome Corsi is suing Robert Mueller personally for millions of dollars (he says secret grand jury information about him was illegally leaked to the press). Others want an criminal investigation into prosecutorial misconduct.

Sperry said it wasn’t clear if Attorney General Bill Barr’s investigation of the “Trump/Russia” probe would be examining the conduct of Mueller’s team. Let’s hope it does. But Democrats in Congress have grabbed Mueller’s baton and are ready to run with it. The ten people Sperry talked to said it was “chilling” that, after all this, Congress is now talking about re-interviewing the witnesses. It’s a nightmare that just won’t go away.

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California Rep. Adam Schiff, chairman of (believe it or not) the House Intelligence Committee has sent letters even to some of the peripheral witnesses Sperry talked to, demanding more documents as well as their testimony before his panel.

It’s apparently not enough that Robert Mueller interviewed over 500 people, traveling all around the country and even overseas. There were nearly 500 search-and-seizure warrants and more than 2,800 grand jury subpoenas. There were 230 orders for communications records and for the use of “pen records” on nearly 50 people –- these are devices that record dialed phone numbers. In other words, this investigation was extremely broad and invasive. Yet as invasive as it was, NO AMERICAN has been charged with conspiring with Russians. The whole thing was a sham from the start, based on a fake “dossier” paid for by Hillary Clinton and (as we learned just yesterday) a likely-fake “black ledger” leaked by a Ukrainian official to help Hillary Clinton.

Then there’s the story of Jerome Corsi. Over a two-month period, the 72-year-old Corsi was interrogated six times by a team of the special counsel’s investigators and lawyers inside a windowless room in an unmarked FBI building in Washington, DC. Sperry writes that some of the sessions lasted as long as eight hours, and that Corsi was left alone for long periods, with no phone, laptop or even a magazine to read, as they observed him from another room. He couldn’t even leave to go to the bathroom without being accompanied by an armed agent.

And guess who one of his interrogators was? Jeannie Rhee, who might be best known as one of the attorneys who defended the Clinton Foundation in a fraud case. There were actually three prosecutors assigned to his case, and they just kept trying to make a connection between Corsi and Wikileaks. He said they tried to get him to admit that he and Roger Stone knew Julian Assange, and when he wouldn’t, they yelled at him and threatened him with prison.

Much more of their abuse of Corsi is detailed in the story. In total, he was grilled for more than 40 hours, with his legal bills totaling more than $100,000. He said they used “gestapo tactics” to harass his friends, family and news sources and that the stress caused him to have a nervous breakdown.

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Sperry’s article details the shameful treatment experienced by others as well, from household names such as Roger Stone (remember the spectacular raid on his house, covered by CNN?) to more peripheral characters such as Jason Fishbein, who was unlucky enough to have once done some legal work for WikiLeaks. Fishbein is described by Sperry as “a small fish caught in Mueller’s dragnet,” who nevertheless had to shell out $20,000 in legal fees and was never charged with anything. He called the Mueller investigation “a political hatchet job.”

Even a self-described never-Trumper named Sam Patten was caught up, because he had done some consulting work with Paul Manafort in the Ukraine and helped a Ukrainian client obtain tickets to Trump’s inauguration. They selectively prosecuted him for failing to register under the FARA law, and he ended up with $140,000 in legal bills. Patten said that they were using this charge to try to squeeze him to get information about “this (bleep-bleep) story about collusion.”

Mad yet? This story should have every American who cares about civil liberties STEAMING, and I hope you’ll read the whole thing. As former Trump campaign official Michael Caputo put it, “Ruining lives was blood sport for them.”

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  • Robert Hamilton

    06/24/2019 02:50 PM

    That makes me mad as (bleep) and that's the rest of the story.

  • Debbie Sedars

    06/24/2019 01:15 PM

    I pray everyday that the Light of Truth will expose this Deep State, and I thank God for His Divine Intervention in President Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton.

  • Shari Bradley

    06/23/2019 08:54 PM

    It is exceedingly appalling what can be done to people by a federal prosecutor on a ferocious prowl!!!

  • Paul T. Kern

    06/22/2019 02:50 PM

    As a Christian I am deeply disturbed at the direction this nation is going. Straying into a quicksand the Marxists/Nazis/Fascists and their followers continue to dig. We true believers need to be guided by God's Word and the Spirit in prayer. I believe now is the time to stand up and be counted. I see too many like ostriches with their heads in the sand. I refuse to be one of them. I pray others will do the same. I appreciate the real news I get from here and a few other balanced, conservative web sites.

  • rodney burke

    06/22/2019 11:48 AM

    take the gloves off and scorch BOTH Weismann and Mueller. They engaged in Gestapo tactics, NO more PC, They need to be before a grand jury who shows them the same contempt they showed everyone for 32+ years. Mueller was despicable for two years. Time for payback, LEGAL payback and a cell. Dems need to know this kind of crap is NOT acceptable in THIS republic! We the people are about 5 miles beyond fed up. 2+ years and $30 Million? That was a criminal conspiracy nothing more.

  • james randolph

    06/22/2019 11:22 AM

    Hey Mike -
    I just sent this link in an email to POTUS Donald Trump.
    I know he has staff to read email, but I want this on record.
    I suspect you also have staff to help read your email!

  • William Anselmo

    06/22/2019 11:01 AM

    Honorable Mr. Huckabee,

    Thank you for all your emails, they are not only informative, but very interesting, that is to say, that you bring out what nobody else from the media will do.
    I do have a problem with all thats going on, and that my thoughts are, we have seen so much garbage that the clinton foundation has done, so much that the clintons have done, the entire procedure of the mueller investigation and its nazi tactics, as well as other incredible things that have gone on.......why do we just hear about it, but absolutly nothing is done? Why isnt mueller being investigated? Why isnt hillary clinton being charged with her email scandle (we all know, if i did this, i would be now be serving my 50 year jail term). To me, it seems (and probably because i just dont understand how washington works) that a lot of dirt is thrown back and forth, but nothing gets done. The major networds blame the right and fox news blames the left.

    Oh and on a side note, i'm kind of sad that your daughter is leaving the white house.

    Again, thank you for all your great work, and may the GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your family richly!!

  • Bill Codner Sr

    06/22/2019 09:47 AM

    The assault on civil liberties has never been more pronounced in this country than by these Mueller Gestapo Liberal Lawyer's. It's time the judicial system admit it's wrongs and pay up to these civilians who suffered innumerable damages, mentally, physically and financially.
    The worst of all this is the DemocRAT Party's dirty tricks and it's never ending assault with no justification other than their political hatred. It's an absolute shame and un-American for DemocRATS to not condemn this misuse of power. It's just may happen to them someday. And the MSM sitting idly aside this issue and supporting such behavior is unconscionable.
    All Americans should join together to make sure this type of misuse of political power never happens again to either party in this country.

  • Amelia Little

    06/22/2019 08:57 AM

    The left just keeps on going like the battery bunny..if you can't get the answer you want, try, try again. And again. And again. And.... BUT they are outraged and apoplectic about any investigations going on or proposed about THEIR actions and deeds. And, the montages I see of the msm about the unlawfulness of investigations into democrats--just unbelievable. I can't remember the full list, but there is a scripted list of the wrongs of President Trump they all dutifully repeat. The first on the list is "lies"--but I have yet to hear a list of all those lies he supposed said. The closest I can come up with is that he manufactured the border crisis. Then, maybe the fact that he did not need to follow through with sanctions on Mexico because the Mexican President negotiated with him and his administration. Even I figured out that, if there was action by Mexico, there would not be tariffs imposed. The "intelligent" congressmen couldn't figure that out. They can't even breathe a sigh of relieve that the cost of avocados and the chipotle burrito won't be going up like they panicked about.

    The bottom line is, hilary lost the election (thank God,) there was no Trump/Russia collusion, they need to put on their big girl panties and get on with the work of legislating FOR the people of the US. I wish there were gofundme accounts for all the people whose lives they have ruined financially among other things. Maybe use that slush fund for sexual harassment to cover those bills--and if all who benefited from it had to personally pay back--there would be plenty to do this.

  • Stephen Lentz

    06/22/2019 08:29 AM

    “He’s conservative...but he’s not mad at anybody about it.” That's the problem with you rinos. You don't get MAD and simply let the jackasses run rough shod over this Country and you do NOTHING to stop them. Is it because you love what they are doing and getting all that power that you and your obnoxious, obscene egos need??? I think the answer is definitely YES!!! I used to vote for the "lesser of 2 evils" but in the next election I will vote for Trump but I won't waste the ink on any other election because you are ALL evil!!! It is way past the time to back TRUMP and put the jackasses in their place BUT you rinos hate Trump so much you allow the jackasses to oppose him and get NOTHING done for the Country!!!! If you haven't noticed, AMERICANS are MAD but you jackasses and rinos care NOTHING about "we the people" or this Country as long as you get your power and corrupt cash stuffed into your pockets!!!

  • Linda Clark

    06/22/2019 08:01 AM

    Unbelievable this can not happen again!!

  • Carol Mathews

    06/22/2019 03:19 AM

    Turn about is fair play and the Mueller team should have their lives torn apart in retribution. They are all so crooked and it is past time that they get theirs. Destroying innocent people for narratives they knew were fake is immoral, mean and hateful and you are very right, should never happen in this country. I am mad and upset about it but like most ordinary people, there isn't much we can do other than write/send our thoughts here. May the people with the power use it for good and get this exposed for what it actually is-----Corruption at the highest level and people need to go to jail after they are broke financially as they have done to others.
    To paraphrase---Do unto others so that you may receive unto yourself, the same.

  • Lisa Guest

    06/22/2019 02:01 AM

    Against the Dems' background noise about reparations, it strikes me that Mueller and company are the ones who need to pay millions of dollars of reparations to the US Treasury--and General Flynn among others--for the charade of investigating what was known to be a hoax on Day 1.

  • Lenetta Haynes

    06/22/2019 12:51 AM

    This is for Mary De young who asked how to find a copy of the Scorched Earth article, or anyone else who wants it: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/08/after_mueller_comes_up_empty_his_targets_speak_out_140524.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/08/after_mueller_comes_up_empty_his_targets_speak_out_140524.html

  • Allen Hatchard

    06/21/2019 11:39 PM


    In just 8 short years America has been transformed into a country resembling the worst of the world. The legal system continues to be weaponized. Congress continues to act contrary to the interests of the people. How fragile freedom is.

  • Elaine Liming

    06/21/2019 10:42 PM

    It is time for the American people to write to the DOJ and demand legal action against the whole gang of them. I remember as a young child jumping rope to--"-all the dishes in the brook know that_______________is a crook." Some in this group are guilty of treason.

  • Gabriel Pace

    06/21/2019 10:01 PM

    Not a single peraon on the Mueller team including the "above reproach" self described Republican Mueller.
    Mueller should have never accepted the assignment because he had a beef with Trump from the beginning because at one time Mueller was a member of Trump's golf club in MD. After 17 years I believe he decided to leave the club purportedly because he was too far away in DC. Have you ever heard of anyone demanding that their initiation fee be returned after being a member for 17 years? Neither have I.

    So don't you think there was some hard feelings against Trump for this

    Well when Mueller decided to leave, he wanted the club to refund a good part of his joining fee amounting to about $15, 000

    Well do you think Mueller forgot this fact while he was in charge of the investigating team of 100% Trump hating shyster lawyers? I don't think so..

  • Robbie Mize

    06/21/2019 09:48 PM

    I guess it is a good thing I wouldn't know a Russian accent if I heard it...because if they had asked me, I would not be nice to these crooks and I'd be on my way to Riker's for life.

  • Steve Glary

    06/21/2019 08:38 PM

    If this type of treatment is allowed to go unpunished, I'm glad I'm old, for this country is going down the proverbial shit-hole, and I don't want to be around to see it. I didn't defend this country for a bunch of thugs, circa 1940 gestapo, to ruin it. They come for me in the middle of the night, they had better shoot first, for they are bound to get both barrels as they come through the door.

  • Granny Anne

    06/21/2019 08:30 PM

    All of the legal bills that these people had to pay should be charged against Mueller and he should be investigated and sent to prison with his Democrat friends.

  • Lauri Norris

    06/21/2019 08:17 PM

    Yes, I’m angry? Is this going to be another 3 year endeavor trying to get these people on the other side to pay? It’s apparent that Mueller was in on the witch hunt all along, and was working for the left. He needs to be brought to justice, along with all the other players that took it upon themselves to destroy lives under completely fabricated pretenses, also constructed by THEM! I pray they get what’s due them.

  • Joe Wilkerson

    06/21/2019 08:07 PM

    This is just a small sample of what it would be like if/when a dem gets in charge agn. These people are mentally challenged for sure. I would feel sorry for them and say"bless their little hearts" , but it would be cutting them too much slack. These people are the deceivers and liars it speaks of in the last days. Me, I keep looking up, my redemption drawth nigh.

  • J R Ledbetter

    06/21/2019 07:59 PM

    Wikileaks did not have Hillary Clinton's emails....she bleach bitted most of them, smashed some with a hammer and the FBI/DOJ covered up the rest. Wikileaks had DNC server files they got from the Russians (assuming Seth Rich was a Russian). Wikileaks also leaked John Podesta emails which were basically open source since his email password was - PASSWORD.

  • Mary De young

    06/21/2019 06:51 PM

    How do I get a copy of: scorched Earth?
    How can this info get out to the public,?

  • Lynn Hoyt

    06/21/2019 06:40 PM

    Where is the protections for Americans????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was horrible enough when the arrests and possible jail for the big names in this mess! But we are suppose to have some protections against this kind of process. I didn't think it was possible to think less of Sessions then I did, but now I do! What a mess he made. I just wish President Trump had done something much earlier!