A “national debate” over how to stop mass shootings

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August 6, 2019

Once again, the media tell us that we’re engaged in a “national debate” over how to stop mass shootings.  I only wish that were true.  I am adamantly in favor of a national debate.  I debated in school, and I know the rules for real debates: you have to present evidence for your side and argue for it rationally and logically.  I would love to see a debate that addresses the real root causes of these horrific acts of violence, which I’ve long written and talked about: the destruction of the family unit, the absence of fathers, the desensitization of kids to violence, the banishing of religion and moral teaching from the public square, undermining of respect for the sanctity of life, the way isolated social media relationships and coarse anonymous Internet sniping have replaced personal human contact in churches and community groups, the “war on boys” that tells young men they’re bad and useless just for being male, and on and on. 

I would even be willing to listen to suggestions for new gun laws, if they were effective at keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people, and not just the same regurgitated anti-Second Amendment leftist wish list of “common sense” gun laws that are anything but.  Those proposed laws invariably would have done nothing to stop the mass shootings, but they would disarm and criminalize law-abiding citizens while making it easier for criminals and deranged shooters to victimize us (like the insane “gun-free zone” concept – “I wanted to shoot a bunch of people, but the sign says this is a ‘gun-free zone.’ Darn it, I guess my killing spree is off!  I wouldn’t want to violate the sign!”)

All those things should be part of the constructive debate we should all come together to have.  Alas, that’s not what’s going on.  Instead of a serious attempt to understand the root causes of the problem and fix them, we’re getting nothing but cynical finger-pointing, political maneuvering, blame-shifting and fomenting of even more hatred, division and racial suspicion.  What’s going on now isn’t useful, it isn’t bringing the country together, it’s harmful rather than healing, and frankly, in at least one way, it’s absolutely disgusting. 

https://www.westernjournal.com/democrats-fundraising-off-el-paso-dayton-massacres/

I would hope that at a time when Americans are reeling and mourning from the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton that those who want to be leaders would be extremely careful about their words.  President Trump is often accused of being sloppy with language or more combative than he needs to be, but even he understood the importance of insuring that his words were cautious, respectful and healing.

https://www.westernjournal.com/hermancain/trump-mental-illness-hatred-pull-trigger-not-gun-condemns-racism-bigotry-white-supremacy/ 

A video of his full remarks are at that link, but here are some salient quotes:

“In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and devours the soul.”

“We must recognize that the internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts. We must shine light on the dark recesses of the internet and stop mass murders before they start.”

“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger — not the gun.”

Unfortunately, many who seek to be leaders in America are not very careful with their words.  One reason I have a writing/research staff is because I don’t want to be accused of trying to promote my point of view by using incorrect “facts” or fake quotes.  My people are very good at digging up reliable data, direct quotes from the source and accurate summaries of opposing viewpoints.  In other words, I don’t just make this stuff up, or stuff straw men to argue against because it’s easier than engaging honestly.  I wish everyone had the same attitude, particularly at a time like this, when slanderous false statements can spread anger and division that harm the entire nation.

All this is preamble to what I could turn into a daily feature: “Corrections Time!”

I already did “Beto” O’Rourke yesterday, but he’s flinging out false statements faster than he’s flinging his arms around these days.  O’Rourke has been all over TV (especially CNN and MSNBC, of course), railing about Trump’s thoughtless use of language while spewing the s-word and the f-word and taking Christ’s name in vain on live TV, but I digress. 

There’s hardly a debunked anti-Trump meme that he hasn’t resuscitated, from “all Mexicans are rapists and criminals” to “he tried to ban all Muslims from the US” to “children in cages” to claiming Trump is an “open, avowed racist,” even though Trump has called himself the least racist person in the world – pretty bad avowing there.  Even if Trump were a racist – which I do not believe he is – claiming he’s an "open and avowed racist" when he’s repeatedly denounced racism and denied being a racist makes me as skeptical of everything O’Rourke says as I am of his chances of ever being President.   

https://nypost.com/2019/08/04/beto-exploits-tragedy-for-sake-of-politics/

Next, Sen. Cory Booker claimed Trump was responsible for the El Paso shooting, even though the shooter wrote in his deranged “manifesto” that fake news media would try to claim that, but he’d felt this way long before Trump came on the scene.  Booker also claimed that Trump “has taken no action whatsoever to even condemn white supremacy.”

At the link are a list of quotes from Trump, condemning racism and white supremacy.

 

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/cory-booker-claims-trump-not-condemned-white-supremacy-years/

CNN tried to tie Texas Sen. John Cornyn to the El Paso shooter’s hatred of Hispanics, citing a similarity between something he tweeted and a line in the shooter’s “manifesto.”  It was actually just the headline of a Texas Tribune news story Cornyn retweet, followed by praise for Texas’ Hispanic residents.  Follow the full smear job here:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/05/seriously-despicable-cnn-propagates-disgusting-smear-linking-gop-sen-john-cornyn-to-el-paso-shooter-video/

 

Hillary Clinton reminded us of why America caught such a break in 2016 by tweeting this:

"People suffer from mental illness in every other country on earth; people play video games in virtually every other country on earth.  The difference is the guns.”

Maybe she hasn’t heard about the mass knife attacks in countries that heavily regulate guns, such as the attacks in China, some of which have involved dozens of injuries and up to 33 deaths.  Or the stabbing rampage in May at a Tokyo bus stop (2 dead and 16 injured, including over a dozen schoolgirls.)  But you’d think she would at least remember the shooting at the mosque in Christchurch in March that killed 51 people and injured 49 more.  That was cited by the El Paso shooter.  FYI: that shooter was Australian, and Christchurch is in New Zealand.  Both are nations other than the USA.  And he used a gun to shoot people.

Former President Obama also spoke out on the shootings, tying them to racism with the obvious implication of blaming Trump and Trump supporters (he conveniently forgot to mention that the Dayton killer was a Warren-supporting, Trump-hating, pro-gun control socialist.) 

https://www.westernjournal.com/obama-speaks-mass-shootings-conveniently-leaves-dayton-shooters-alleged-leftist-ties/

By the way, considering what I just wrote, it took real chutzpah for Elizabeth Warren to send out tweets trying to blame the shootings on Trump.

Lastly, Joe Biden chimed in, claiming that the shootings are being fueled by Trump’s divisive rhetoric, which is “causing people to die.”

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/biden-latest-dem-candidate-try-connect-trump-el-paso-shooting-rhetoric-causing-people-die/

Putting aside all the violent rhetoric Biden has used about wanting to punch Trump, I wonder what kind of divisive presidential rhetoric might have been responsible for the shootings at the Sandy Hook school, the Aurora movie theater, the Washington Navy ship yard, Fort Hood, San Bernardino, the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, and the racially-motivated shooting of police officers in Dallas, to name just a few, all of which happened during the Obama/Biden years?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

Amid all these misquotations, innuendoes and convenient edits of history, here’s an unassailable, provable fact:

When you point your finger at someone else, three fingers are pointing back at you. 

 

 

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  • Michael R Brannick

    08/13/2019 09:20 PM

    Since 1993 gun ownership has increased by approximately 50%. During that same period firearms related homicides have decreased approximately 50%. If easy access to guns promotes murder wouldn't the rate of homicides have increased instead of decreasing?

    Obama, when he was using his pen and phone had the CDC research "gun violence." I suspect he was surprised at the results. The CDC found that law abiding gun owners use their guns to stop crimes approximately as often as criminals use their guns to commit crimes, between 500,000 and 3 million times every year. If "universal" background checks and other gun control laws make it more difficult, more expensive, or impossible to keep and bear arms those crimes will not be stopped. "Gun violence" will increase. I certainly hope that's not what the Leftists want, but it's what they would get.

  • Estes Roy

    08/13/2019 08:09 PM

    No one blames the media but they promote any shooting for WEEKS 24 hours a day on All channels.

  • Greg Russell

    08/08/2019 07:17 PM

    I`m very pleased, and also very surprised Governor that I agree with you so whole hardheartedly here. I`m an NRA Life-Endowment member, and a Gun Owners of America, (GOA), annual member, and belong to an Independent, Fundamental, Evangelical Baptist Church in Avon Indiana, and although I`ve appreciated you many times in the past, for your stand on certain issues, I never felt that you were quite far enough to the right to suit me. Could it be that I`ve misjudged you? Liberals hate America, they hate all our freedoms and individual liberties, and they, quite frankly, are domestic terrorists, and a direct threat to this great Republic. They, with the help of their liberal puppet media run a propaganda campaign that Joseph Goebbels would envy, and they seem to base everything on sheer, hysterical, emotional rhetoric. Facts are entirely lost on them. We must pray for this Republic, pray that out elected employees will find reason, enforce our borders, cease their blatant attacks on the constitutional rights of law-abiding American citizens, and, turn back to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The Lord is really our only hope. Keep up the good fight Governor, and we`ll see you Saturday evening on the Huckabee Show. God bless.

  • David Prentler

    08/08/2019 05:41 PM

    Again those EVIL police officers ran toward the gunfire and saved many others from being a victim to a mentally deranged shooter. Maybe an anti gun liberal would run to the gunfire and sing a few choruses of Cumbuyah, I am sure that would have been more humane. Being a retired police officer I would have done the same and even if I survived my wife would have murdered me. That's just ingrained into our being.

  • Gloria Gardner

    08/08/2019 11:50 AM


    Dr. Jim Gardner, a mental health practitioner for over 40 years, has written Stopping America's Violence Epidemic as a tool to help churches enable anyone to be healed from their emotional pain of grief and anger, which are two main sources of the pain that motivates people to mass killings. As the most recent killings show, (https://www.westernjournal.com/man-full-anger-kills-4-southern-california-machete-rampage/?utm_source=push&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2019-08-07&utm_campaign=pushtraffic) anger plays a significant role in these killings, but mere gun restriction will not stop them.

    Please have your writing and research team check out this book. It is a prayer-based approach, with the actual healing credited to God, and often dramatically visible in a one-hour session or less. As an experienced mental health provider, Dr. Gardner knows that mere conventional secular treatments do not help, but this process does. If churches would adopt it and spread it, it truly could stop the spread of all this anger and violence.

    For more information to confirm the philosophy and theology behind this ministry go to SetFreePrayerMinistry.com

    Thank you for reading my comments.

  • Frank E. Block, Jr.

    08/08/2019 10:21 AM

    I think you are right about the problem of boys without fathers. It’s easy to decry the breakup of families and wish that it were not so. But there are boys out there TODAY that don’t have fathers and that aren’t going to have fathers.

    My question is what should some individual boy DO if he doesn’t have a father? Or what should we as society, or we as concerned citizens, do for the boy who doesn’t have a father? Do we need a book on “What If You Don’t Have a Father?” (Maybe YOU could write it!). Do we need videos, or video games, or TV shows, or after-school programs, or evening programs, or weekend programs? Is this a role for churches?

    I say again, It’s great to try to wish that everyone would have a father in the home, and maybe that problem can also be addressed, but meanwhile let’s try to help the boys who have no fathers today.

  • Richard E. Nance

    08/08/2019 10:14 AM

    Excellent commentary, Governor. The mainstream media and the Democrat party (as you say, "Pardon my redundancy) continue their disgusting, disingenuous attacks on President Trump, evidently believing the American people are stupid or as caught up in blind hatred as they are.

  • Marie Barrett

    08/07/2019 08:44 PM

    N.H. has very low gun violence, Chicago had 49 people on the same Saturday that Texas (20) and Ohio (11) and they have the most stringent gun control laws. BTW, no media coverage of Chicago (could it be that the media can't blame Trump?). Why can't Liberals see the facts here? Maybe they and the media can but still spew their talking points. Mike, I love you and your daughter. Hope you both have God's strength to run again.

  • gary Stilwell

    08/07/2019 06:40 PM

    Until you fix the broken justice system, this crap will continue to escalate--we have passed the moral character threshold, and now only have the "law" to resort to--when a society has to resort to the basal 'law', you can be absolutely certain we are on the down-slope--and that 'law' will soon be morphed into persecution, derogation, loss of rights, and the false idea that we live in a democracy--we teach our children such--what would you expect???

  • R. Saffell

    08/07/2019 05:31 PM

    Democrats want to take away your guns.
    They say if you have a gun you might kill somebody.
    Fox News had a video game player on the other day. They asked him about what President Trump said about banning video games because they might cause people to kill somebody.
    This "Gamer" said he had been playing video games for years …...and he had never killed anyone.
    He thought Trump was wrong. The National video gamers association agreed with him.
    So....tell me the difference.
    If they can take away your guns because they believe you might kill someone.....
    ….then they can take away your KNIVES saying you might kill someone.
    They can take away your car because you MIGHT kill someone with it.
    They can take away your penis because you might rape someone with it.
    And they will call this a RED FLAG ….. and then you will be in jail.
    You will be in jail because your hateful and jealous sister …. or wife....or husband.....wants to hurt you. And they will say you are a RED FLAG....
    Tell me the difference.
    Jailing people for what they MIGHT do.
    Taking away your property....including your penis.....for what you MIGHT do.
    Sound like the America you were raised in?
    Democrats want to violate your Constitutional Rights.
    Why don't WE.....jail THEM.....for what they MIGHT do?
    Obviously ….it is legal....

  • Patricia Ann McMahon

    08/07/2019 03:07 PM

    There's a great deal being said about these mass killings. I want to support what is NOT being said. Fox News and other media outlets are NOT naming the alleged El Paso and Dayton killers. That is just one of the things that should REALLY help. These individuals all want to go out in a blaze of GLORY and INFAMEY. If they are not publisized, they won't have their egos fed. I know NBC is still doing it, since it shows up on the local affiliate. I fast forward through it. I don't want to know who did what.
    On Fox, they are simply called El Paso killer or Dayton Killer. DON"T GIVE THE MURDERERS WHAT THEY WANT MOST-PUBLICITY! We need to get other media to follow this policy.

  • Brenda Bowman

    08/07/2019 02:24 PM

    Hopefully you saw this story. https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/texas-teen-arrested-after-grandmother-thwarts-mass-shooting-plan/
    A good example of a family member being proactive towards her grandson who had a plan. She saved him and others from harm.
    The whole world is eaten up with hatred and self-centered living. I see it everyday in Houston traffic! People are angry and frustrated and feel they are entitled to have it their way. How do you change the hearts and minds of billions? By doing your part: Love God and Love your Neighbor....which as Tony Evans says, puts you in 3rd place.

  • David Colonna

    08/07/2019 01:38 PM

    The division in the United States really escalated during the Obama era and again we see how Liberal Democrats lie. What a shame that we the true Americans have to put up with this garbage. Both of the shooters this time can be linked heavily to Liberal Democratic agendas, so we need to come together and point out these lies and destruction the Liberals are causing

  • Donald Sofia

    08/07/2019 10:37 AM

    One of the best ways to stop or slow down these killings is......the next time we capture the person doing it, forget about habeas corpus, a trial, lawyers etc. etc. Simple take him out into the street and execute him on the spot. Make sure there are witnesses and the news media. I think the next maniac will say "holy crap", and not do it. That's all we need is to set an example.

  • Kay DeWitt

    08/07/2019 10:20 AM

    Minutes after I wrote my previous comment, I received an email from the mother of Kendal Crank, the young mother who, a.few months ago, here in Charlotte, was caught in a cross fire shooting, while waiting at a traffic light, and died...I am going to paste below what Kendal 's mom wrote to me because it confirms the validity of what I stated in my previous comment.. SHE WROTE:
    Hi Kathryn, this is Linda,
    Kendal mom, I contacted you not realizing I contacted the wrong person, just reaching out to let you know that I did listen to link that you sent me,I was impressed with your strength and support for our children,I have not gotten the poem from She’re yet,we did speak about it just yesterday and we were supposed to have met up but it didnot happen our schedules are conflicting. I thank you so much for reaching out to me and for the support and the love and passion that you have and your participation in the city of Charlotte for our community.May God continue to lead and guide you, with all my love.
    Sent from my iPad

  • Patricia Allums

    08/07/2019 10:06 AM

    When you hear of a mass shooting your mind doesn’t respond with “oh that crazy gun, but with it was a person with a lot of problems!” So guns are not at fault, but we do need a way to identify people with problems that own a gun. If it is a family member, neighbor, or anyone and the gun needs to be surrendered!

  • Mrs. Shirley Runge

    08/07/2019 09:05 AM

    Thank you, Governor Huckabee. Your words are clear, precise, and accurately based on "facts". Some individuals are unable to see that they themselves are the ones filling the world with anger and rage when they lash out at President Trump. I have never seen or heard before such anger toward one person as that directed toward our President Trump. This uncontrollable rage is present in everything they do and say. How can people "hate" this much? Keep your comments coming, "Mike".

  • KEN HOPKINS

    08/07/2019 09:02 AM

    Governor, I appreciate the talent you have for delivering your thoughts with humor and truth. Thank you and God bless and keep you safe.

  • Kay DeWitt

    08/07/2019 08:53 AM

    Amen amen and amen! Mike you just reechoed my..His...
    cry that I am dedicating my life to and....because I am willing to lay my life down that His cry BE heard....I am believing that it WILL!

  • Felicitas Panganiban

    08/07/2019 08:51 AM

    1. Bring God back to where He was. Especially in Schools. Will make a lot of difference.
    2. Censor movies and videos that are violent.
    3. Stop perpetuating discrimination against color, country of origin and belief. Discrimination makes one angry and feels hopeless. Our society doesn't need it.
    4. Gun ownership is not to blame but ownership should be placed on good, responsible hands.

  • Dave Stanton

    08/07/2019 06:20 AM

    https://talkingpsalmsblogs.blogspot.com/

    WHAT IF???


    Romans 9:22-23
    What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath — prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory
    NIV


    It is now the third day since the killings that are lovingly talked about endlessly on mass media. But I have a question that has given me turmoil in my sleep.

    What if, these two young men, as well as all others, would have been taught from infancy that there is a God who loves us so much he sacrificed his son so we could hang out with him? What if they were repeatedly instructed at home, school, church and mass media about the 10 commandments which are the basis for all our laws? What if as part of their annual school exam they were tested on their Biblical knowledge which was part of their daily classes?

    What if their parents were able to deduct on their tax form dollar for dollar their Tithe to their local church and that church was also daily feeding people who were hungry and helping to meet their needs? What if each faith-based group was given USDA food supplies and military surplus clothing to distribute? What if there were no more government welfare or food stamps but the distribution to the poor was put in the hands of faith-based groups, especially those who called on the name of the Lord Jesus?

    And what if The House of Representatives were only allowed one 4 year term and the Senate was only permitted one 5 year term and that these term limits took effect on the first of January 2020?

    What if Christian Churches held daily prayer meetings and counseling sessions along with daily help programs? What if the next time some demon wants to take prayer out of the schools that local churches would organize a sit-down strike in the schools until this idea from hell was eliminated.

    I know, I ask too many questions but what if?

  • Gene R. Hyde

    08/07/2019 02:08 AM

    If this country doesn't turn back to God, Jesus, we're going to loose the whole thing. (Re: shootings etc. )

  • Marilyn Fischer

    08/07/2019 12:44 AM

    I always love your "voice of reason"!!!

  • Carolyn Storer

    08/07/2019 12:33 AM

    Dear Mr Huckabee: My brother-in-law used to tell me that all the time “when you’re pointing a finger you have 3 pointing back at you!” And I just put that on a post the other day! I believe, as many others do, that the Democrats are the ones who should be taking this to heart! And speaking of heart, perhaps they should be examining their own! Most of them are blaming the President for these horrific massacres which is totally ridiculous. What he says is not nearly as bad as what they accuse him of and I’ve always heard that usually the accuser is doing what he accuses you of so....... I am so sick of this bashing of the President!!!! The news media is so biased that I can hardly stand to watch even the little snippets that Fox News shows. Can’t stand a few of the commentators on Fox either! Luckily we live in America where I have the freedom to watch what I want to watch! ???? Enjoy your show too Governor! Like your down to earth take on things! Keep on keeping on!!! Thanks for all you do! You are in my prayers as well as our President, our country (praying for a great awakening) & many other people & things! ??????????????

  • Nancy Janzen

    08/06/2019 11:59 PM

    There is a really good letter from the Catholic League on the social and psychological causes of mass killers.