Now that Attorney General Bill Barr has opened a criminal investigation into the origins of the “Trump/Russia” probe, news outlets have been working feverishly trying to dismiss and discredit him while defending Adam Schiff. Spend ten minutes with your Democrat friends, and you’re bound to be subjected to the same talking points they’ve heard on CNN or MSNBC. At the moment, the Top Three would probably be: 1) Barr is just working for Trump to get him political payback; 2) “Due process” doesn’t kick in for Trump until impeachment goes to the Senate for trial; and 3) The Benghazi hearings were behind closed doors, so Schiff’s can be, too, just like a grand jury. One reader’s Democrat friends have been talking about 3), and he has asked me to comment. Here is his letter and my reply, followed by (yes) a limerick.

From Rick:

...A couple of my friends are comparing these hearings to the Benghazi hearings, that I didn't know about.  

"Republicans held closed meetings re: Benghazi and thought it was perfectly fine. Now they don’t like it when the Democrats have that same policy for the impeachment hearings. This part of the investigation can be compared to a grand jury inquiry. What and who they present is not made public until the decision to move ahead or not." This [is] one quote.
Could you please address this publicly? I feel it is like comparing grapes to watermelons. I would really appreciate a response that I can share again on Facebook.

...........................

Glad to, Rick. Now, I’m not a lawyer, but I do know that the founders intended impeachment to be in a class by itself, not lumped into the same category as a general fact-finding investigation, as with Benghazi, or a typical grand jury. Not only does it target an individual, but that person is the President of the United States, no less, and the endgame is possibly removing that duly-elected person from office. There is nothing more serious that our Congress can undertake, aside perhaps from declaring war, and certain important protocols have been established. Those who say Schiff’s committee is essentially a grand jury and that this is all right either have not read the Constitution and Federalist papers or else have been blinded by partisan dislike of this President, or both.

In contrast, the hearings of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, chaired by Trey Gowdy, were for fact-finding, and my understanding is that much of that work was properly conducted behind closed doors because of the vast amount of classified information potentially involved. In that case, a formal vote WAS held to form the committee and outline the scope and details, with seven House Democrats voting in favor. Both sides could call witnesses; the Republicans in the room with Schiff and his Inquisitors cannot. Hillary testified extensively about her role in the murder of four Americans in Libya when she was Secretary of State. Critics saw the move to question her and her associates as politically motivated –- and they undoubtedly were for many Republicans, as she was running for President and some of the questioning, particularly of Sidney Blumenthal, arguably went far afield (that’s when we learned about her email server) –- but the committee did include seven Republicans and five Democrats. In fact, then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi personally appointed the five Democrats to, as she said, “be there to fight for a fair hearing and process, to try to bring some openness and transparency to what’s going on.” (Ironically, Adam Schiff was one of her five picks; he was already on the Intel Committee then and called this special committee “a colossal waste of time,” which is really funny considering what he’s doing now.)

In addition to the closed-door hearings, there were four public hearings –- remember when Hillary famously snapped “What difference, at this point, does it make??” –- and transcripts, congressional reports, committee websites and fact sheets were generally available. Also, Hillary wanted the public hearing, and they gave it to her. Functionally, this committee was bipartisan, and much more transparent than Schiff-ty’s no-rules “secure” hearings. I don’t recall that the private Benghazi hearings were nearly as shrouded with secrecy as Schiff’s hearings are, as I’ve never heard of an SCIF (“skiff”) until now.

Incidentally, even though Hillary walked away from the Benghazi investigation, they found massive screwing-up on her part. Here’s one op-ed from September 2016 we found by the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli…

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/what-the-benghazi-attack-taught-me-about-hillary-clinton

But I digress. Now let’s make the most meaningful comparison: impeachment inquiry to impeachment inquiry. In Lindsay Graham’s press conference on Thursday, he outlined all the due process rights given to Bill Clinton by the House during his impeachment inquiry but denied President Trump now:

– House debate and formal vote on holding an inquiry

– Defined scope of inquiry

– House members allowed to see evidence

– President’s counsel allowed to attend

– Specific rules for investigation

– President’s counsel allowed to challenge evidence

– Minority given subpoena power

I should mention that we have breaking news about Schiff’s “inquiry.” D.C. District Court Judge Beryl Howell, an Obama appointee, has said it is valid even though the House hasn’t formally authorized it with a floor vote. (This was part of an equally dismaying ruling concerning the Mueller report that chips away at the long-term secrecy of grand jury transcripts; details in the op-ed at this link…)

Judge Beryl Howell’s ruling on releasing grand jury testimony is 100% partisan gobbledygook

Okay, I assume that if Schiff’s kangaroo court is going to be considered legitimate without a floor vote, then he will immediately extend to President Trump and his legal counsel all the due process considerations that were granted to Nixon and Clinton and that would automatically kick in with the floor vote. Rep. Mark Meadows has three suggestions to start: 1) Don’t have the hearings in a SCIF (secure room) if the information is not classified; 2) Extend due process to the minority; both sides should get to call their own witnesses, have subpoena power, etc.; and 3) “Get counsel in there that protects some of the equities of the executive branch.” I’m not holding my breath, though.

Well, I hope this helps. Your grape-and-watermelon analogy really does make sense, as we’re talking about IMPEACHMENT now, and we’ve not seen anything like this before. I think this all this secrecy will go down in history making Schiff’s “inquiry” look really bad. I’ll close with a limerick:

There once was a fellow named Schiff

Whose meetings were held in a “skiff”

He trashed all the rules

Dems followed like fools

Or like lemmings who jump off a cliff

 

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  • F. J. Blaszka

    10/31/2019 09:38 AM

    Would the DemoRATS please consult Black's Law Dictionary and read AND UNDERSTAND the sections pertaining to Due Process.

  • Craig Monsen

    10/28/2019 11:59 PM

    NICE! Now I can go to bed with a smile on my face.

  • Miguel Briseno

    10/28/2019 12:56 PM

    Excellent, intellectual response! Thank you.

  • Anita Kubes

    10/28/2019 10:37 AM

    I am sick of impeachment. I am standing strong with President Trump. It is plain that the President is working FOR the American People and not for his own benefit. May God Bless President Trump.

  • Rosena Hagee

    10/27/2019 07:17 PM

    I love your use of the "Queen's English".

  • Vickie Fiorentino

    10/27/2019 10:25 AM

    Have read many articles regarding Benghazi and have come to the conclusion that Hitlery was unfit and imcompentant to fill that position. She was too busy padding her charity to have to deal with the lives of Americans. My opinion is that SHE should PAY the surviving families all of her charity funds...she can be "poor" again, as she stated before she acheived the position when she backed down from running to give Osama Obama the presidency, she got the "pay to play" position.

  • Shari Bradley

    10/27/2019 07:13 AM

    Mike Huckabee, just like you to come up with a Limerick for fun!! Thank you for very complete analysis! All in all, I still do not understand how Dems can get away with all they do (I think they're about to pay the Piper though.)

  • Kay DeWitt

    10/27/2019 07:01 AM

    Upon reading this statement in one of the comments,"However, we seem to have forgotten how to disagree with people without vilifying them in the process", it had some kind of "echo" of MY statement that "OUR KIDS 'seem to have forgotten how to disagree with one another ' without wanting to KILL EACH OTHER!" ...This person's statement verifies what has been my cry that THE SAME "AUTHOR" OF HATRED THAT IS AUTHORING THE DEMOCRATS' HATRED TOWARD PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE SAME "AUTHOR" OF HATRED THAT IS AUTHORING THE GUN VIOLENCE CRISIS WE ARE FACING HERE IN AMERICA ! "...AND, since that author is none other than Satan himself, what we are witnessing in this "warfare" between "political" parties is, ultimately, warfare between "spiritual" parties , known AS "spiritual warfare"!...For those of you who read Stephen Strang's book, "God and Donald Trump", and BELIEVE the message OF this book, then you know that, in the end, none of these " logistical " facts are going to count for a hill of beans!...I have cried...and cried...and cried to deaf ears that the "chink" in President's armor was his lack of understanding that what makes for a REAL "winner" in GOD'S eyes is not what makes for a winner in MAN'S eyes! When President Trump was growing up, he bought his dad's definition of what makes for one's being a "winner", versus one's being a "loser", based ON man's medium of measurement rather THAN on God's medium of measurement...which is WHY President Trump cannot admit that he was wrong....or that he made a mistake.. And it is because this lie over his life has served to make him his own worst enemy have I made a cry to "whosoever" would listen that he needed to replace his " spiritual " advisor with a Christian who is not a prosperity preacher because all their prosperity "gospel" did was baptize the world's definition of prosperity.... which equates with worldly success and "winning!" ....and this was NOT the spiritual advice President Trump needed!...And HAD President Trump had his spiritual eyes opened...and understood the spiritual warfare he was in....he would never ever made the decision to withdraw our troops from Syria and certainly would he not have made a decision like this...whose end result was bloodshed....
    without getting input from others! THIS time our President's inability to admit he made a mistake is, at present, hurting him more than what else is uncovered about the Democrats' sin against our President. If, in time, President Trump's decision to withdraw our troops from Syria proves to be something that increasingly HURTS America...the America that President Trump so loves and given so much of himself in his desire to make it "great", I think he could die of a broken heart! Which is WHY....to say it again....it is time for Christians to step up to the plate and not allow Satan to use this grievous chapter in President Trump's presidential "story" to advance his (Satan's) evil agenda of socialism! What will make America great again...and THE only thing that WILL....is the unconditional love of Jesus Christ that....because it IS unconditional....can, concomitantly, love the sinner while hating his sin....his "mistake".....SO....whatever happens now in the Middle East ....as a result of the decision our President made....we Christians have to show our world that we love him no less than we ever did....and BECAUSE it WAS God who chose Donald Trump to BE our President it will also be GOD'S decision as to whether or not he will continue to BE our President and, maybe. ...just maybe... God's choice will be dependent on OUR choice....as to whether or not we Christians choose TO use this last chapter IN our President's story to witness Christ's unconditional love....and what makes for a REAL winner from His eternal perspective....a perspective that is foreign to eyes that are spiritually blind!

  • Patti Greene

    10/27/2019 02:04 AM

    Interesting article. My favorite part (I suspect it's almost everyone's favorite) is your limerick!
    Thank you!

  • Phyllis Fitzgerald

    10/26/2019 10:00 PM

    Thanks for the great explanation. I especially liked the limerick. I had to laugh when I got to the end of it.

  • Susan Faber

    10/26/2019 09:52 PM

    Thank you for this article and all you do. What I am wondering is why someone doesn't have the authority to stop the impeachment circus because of all the unlawful things they are doing? Why can't someone "take them to task" for their misdeeds? Anyone with even half a brain can see all of the rules they are breaking. The Democrats are acting like babies who did not get their way and are throwing the loudest tantrum they can to get the most sympathy possible and make "the bad guys" (in their estimation) look REALLY bad.

  • Kathleen Wood

    10/26/2019 08:45 PM

    Is Schiff in the scif like Elf on the Shelf? I do think he may have very special eyes which allow him to see in the dark, though.

  • Kathleen Wood

    10/26/2019 08:41 PM

    Could someone please provide a parody or at least a good meme of Schiff in a scif ?

  • Carl Smith

    10/26/2019 08:12 PM

    Off Topic but I must put in my 2 cents worth. Many of your followers seem to be WAITING on God to save America! IMHO My god gave me Life.... everything else is on ME. Our Founders were biblical scholars as well as Historical scholars and attempted to give us a Government founded on Judeo -Christian Principles. These ideals were perfectly explained in the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence and Our GOD Given RIGHTS were laid out in the first 10 Amendments to our Constitution. The problem Is when Wordsmiths start playing with the written word. "It depends on what the definition of "is" is".
    I know not what others will do but 'I' Refuse to become a SUBJECT ON my knees. I will always STAND for the Flag and KNEEL in Prayer as long as I am a 'CITIZEN'.
    With God as my Shepherd I will fight to my last breath for MY FREE Country. That's all anyone can ask of our Creator, Everything else is up to us!

  • Jerry Johnson

    10/26/2019 07:57 PM

    There was an investigation commissioned to a federal attorney out of Utah or Nevada called Huber > did or will anything come out of that?

  • Dawn Street

    10/26/2019 07:23 PM

    Limerick is the best part of this. I am so upset by the way the DemonRats are conducting themselves. But I have learned that we cannot expect non Christians to behave like Christians or liberal socialists to behave like Conservatives. There are those who preach tolerance and they are the most intolerant. Same with those who complain loud and long and proclaim everything from sign language to actual words to be racist and yet who are the most racist of all.

    We cannot fight such illogical behavior and thinking patterns. Where does it come from? It is totally dysfunctional and they are not following the laws as set out in the Constitution and they are not following the traditional rules of the House.

  • Tim Helms

    10/26/2019 07:02 PM

    I believe that we will eventually find out that Adam Schiff and the whistle blower are one and the same. That is why he cannot testify. Schiff cannot testify before himself.

  • Carmine Fea

    10/26/2019 06:37 PM

    I agree with the simple truth, the Ukraine president said there was no quid pro quo and he was not "pushed", President Trump said there was no quid pro quo and the transcript of the phone call supports there was no quid pro quo. What the two principle individuals say and the transcript supports, reasonably, must rule. The "whistle blower" complaint is not accurate. Stop the impeachment NOW. Use the courts if necessary. President Trump has every right to ask Ukraine for investigation of US corruption that occurred in the Ukraine, where else can it be investigated.

  • richard vitecka

    10/26/2019 05:48 PM

    why is it the democrats can do anything they please and nothing gets done about it and if a republican does nothing he gets crusified

  • Michael Wikman

    10/26/2019 05:25 PM

    All demonkrats keep saying "the american people want?"How do they know anything about the American People AND WHAT WE WANT. They dont give a damn about us "WE THE PEOPLE" AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS..THE gop WONT HELP THEMSELVES..I really believe a civil war is coming, satan is winning there is too much secularism in our lives and we show it by doing nothing about anything....the end

  • Fiorella Weaver

    10/26/2019 05:02 PM

    Fact finding means that there is evidence that will support a certain situation. In the case of Trump impeachment, the democrats are trying to come up with evidence that doesn't already exist....

  • Luna Lynn

    10/26/2019 04:52 PM

    LOL!!! Great limerick!!!

  • Alan Doud

    10/26/2019 04:14 PM

    Democrats foolishly keep pushing their agenda at the cost of exposing themselves. they should have left sleeping dogs lye, let Trump finish out his terms and taken control back. I am a former full ticket democrat for over fifty years that am disgusted with fool hardy and unprofessional actions. I think they are building their own gallows like Haman in the bible. As the noose tightens they are desperately kicking at air to try and save themselves. Only a total fool or blind man would believe their insistent inconsistent rhetoric. I am done with the democrats until they clean up their act. Their corruption, manipulation, lies and deception is why Trump won. To sum up my opinion of the democratic party is the epiphany of Nepotism, Favoritism, and pay offs. I am a former Chicago citizen from the Daley era that knows how that machine thinks and works. You are fighting a very strong loyal force that tends to ignore wrong doing believing it is for the greater good. what a laugh. The greater good of themselves.

  • Robert McFate

    10/26/2019 03:54 PM

    Good limerick! I would point out that the tactic that is being used throws the Constitution out the window. Soviet "justice" should not be tolerated in any form in the US!

  • Doris Wix

    10/26/2019 03:50 PM

    Kangaroo court indeed.