What if they gave an impeachment and nobody came?

For those of you who weren’t around during the antiwar protests of the 1960s, this line is a take-off on the catchphrase from that era, “What if they gave a war and nobody came?”

When applied to literal war with military combat, that question is about as unrealistic as it gets. If an army comes at you with all its weaponry and you don’t show up to fight, it runs right over you and conquers you. Think France and World War II –- it took other nations coming to the war to get them out from under the boot of Nazis. The only way this idea works is if absolutely NOBODY with any firepower decides to wage war.

Of course, that didn’t stop hippies, too tripped-out on hallucinogens to think clearly, from hanging the posters and wearing the T-shirts. Often, the question was illustrated with a picture of a gun with a daisy sticking out of it. Flower power. Right on.

But for an impeachment “war” --- especially the unconstitutional semi-impeachment inquiry currently underway in Adam Schiff’s House Intelligence Committee, it makes sense.

Yesterday, White House counsel Pat Cipolloni sent a letter to Speaker Pelosi and three House committee chairmen outlining the myriad problems with their so-called “impeachment inquiry” and saying that unless they followed legal precedent and due process, the administration would not be cooperating thank-you-very-much. It was a masterful, must-read letter; I’ll link to it again here, this time in a more layman-friendly edit with John Hinderaker’s comments:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/trump-refuses-to-participate-in-impeachment-farce.php

To play along with this farce is to lend legitimacy to an illegitimate inquiry. If the Intelligence Committee really were on a fact-finding mission, it would allow the President to submit his own evidence, have access to evidence, call and cross-examine witnesses, receive transcripts of testimony, and to have his own counsel present. (Recall that Newt Gingrich, as then-Speaker, allowed Bill Clinton all of these civil rights.) But this is about furthering the narrative that they themselves created and trying to “get” Trump on obstruction of justice for his non-cooperation with this sham. To have obstruction of justice, don’t you first have to have JUSTICE? There is no justice here to obstruct.

Cipollone’s letter says it well: “Given that your inquiry lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation, any pretense of fairness, or even the most elementary due process protections, the Executive Branch cannot be expected to participate in it. Because participating in this inquiry under the current unconstitutional posture would inflict lasting institutional harm on the Executive Branch.”

Of course, the radical Democratic base doesn’t care what their anti-Trump fight does to the Executive Branch, the Constitution and the American system of justice. They don’t respect these institutions, anyway, and if they can bring down Trump and destroy the concept of individual rights for people with whom they disagree, they’ll consider it a two-fer.

Can Republicans just not show up at all? Ranking House Intelligence Committee member Devin Nunes says they at least will have to have one member of Congress present and a lawyer to take notes. “If not,” he told Sean Hannity on Wednesday, “they do control the gavels, they have the power, and they can do a lot of really bad things.” In other words, not staying apprised of what Democrats are doing would be very much like sticking a daisy into the barrel of a soldier’s rifle.

He expressed surprise that Pelosi wasn't bothering to go to court to challenge the White House counsel, saying “that means they really are just racing to get this done.”

He went on, “...I think what you’re seeing is, they’re on a ‘sugar high’ with polls right now, they’ve got 90 percent of the media poisoning people, they’ve got all the tech companies poisoning people, so they read the polls right now and they want to race quickly, as long as it’s 50 percent plus 1, to impeach the President.”

This kind of accelerated schedule, called a “rocket docket,” is in this case being used to get an impeachment before the various Justice Department investigations on the Trump/Russia probe and abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) are complete and made public. Some of that –- IG Horowitz’ report on FISA abuse by Obama’s FBI/DOJ –- will probably be out in the next couple of weeks, so Democrats don’t want anything to slow them down.

Not only has White House counsel questioned the legitimacy of the so-called impeachment inquiry, but a federal judge has questioned how she could know if an inquiry had begun when there had been no floor vote. This was in a hearing on Tuesday about whether the House Judiciary Committee should get secret grand jury materials from Mueller’s special counsel report as part of the inquiry. Georgia Rep. Doug Collins, ranking member of the committee, had filed a brief in the House application for this to point out that prior impeachments had been authorized by a floor vote. He wrote that the Judiciary Committee would normally be able to get the materials if the full House had voted to start a formal inquiry, but that this hadn’t happened.

“Without an explicit authorization from the full House, the Court has no determinative measure of when an official impeachment proceeding has begun and when the Committee is merely exercising its normal oversight powers,” Collins wrote in his brief. “Votes --- not words or press conferences, by Members, the Chairman, or the Speaker –- are the mechanism through which Congress acts.”

According to Todd Ruger in ROLL CALL, Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell asked House General Counsel Douglas Letter, “Where are you suggesting I should draw lines?” She said it would “make it easier for all of us” if Speaker Pelosi would have a floor vote, and she has yet to rule on whether the Judiciary Committee can see the secret special counsel documents. Ruger says Pelosi appears to have the support to pass a resolution authorizing the inquiry. So the question is, why wouldn’t she just have the doggone vote?

I say it’s because she wants to be able to do this while denying Trump due process, which would require them to let Trump produce documents and call witnesses. This is NOT a search for truth, and the last thing Democrats want is for him to submit evidence that conflicts with their narrative and, worse, shows what THEY did.

University of Texas law professor Steve Vladeck said Cipollone’s letter will elevate this “from a series of squabbles to a full-on confrontation.” President Trump said Wednesday that “the whole thing is a scam, a fix” and that the letter would probably lead to a Supreme Court case. (He also taunted Democrats a bit by saying, “I sort of thrive on it.”) Though a 1993 Supreme Court decision seems to give Congress the power to make its own rules for impeachment, there might be a question of whether it can enforce such rules without a floor vote on opening an inquiry. But, again, impeachment-mad Democrats are in a hurry and do not want to be slowed down for anything.

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  • Dawn Street

    10/15/2019 06:12 PM

    The Bible teaches us to pray. WE should be holding up Donald Trump and his family and V P Mike Pence and his family to God in prayer for protection and for guidance. Pray for a hedge of protection around them, for the Angels to guard them from the evil that surrounds them, for the insults and the threats to fall harmlessly to the ground (or to be turned upon the evil ones who curse and insult and threaten our leaders). And for Him to guide them to complete the mission He has given them.

    But we also have his example of "righteous indignation" when he drove the thieves and money lenders from the temple declaring they had changed it from a place of prayer to a den of thieves. Jesus made a scourge, a whip, and he DROVE them from the temple. There are other examples of God's prophets praying for defeat of an enemy, an army, false priests.

    I think it is time for us to pray against the deeds of evil men. Pray against George Soros, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Omar Talif, Jerry Nadler, Mitt Romney, Andy McCabe, John Comey, the love birds Paige and Strzck, Robert Mueller... We need to make a list to keep their names in front of us and pray God will drive them mad, defeat them, strike them dead... God destroyed the enemies of Israel when the people prayed. One night all the men in one enemy camp arose and killed each other, another enemy camp became terrified and fled over night leaving all the booty they had captured. Pray against the enemies within our gates. Pray and have faith that God will hear your prayers.

    Then pray for our nation to return to the teachings of the Bible. He promises to hear our prayers and deliver our land and our people if we will just humble ourselves, pray, seek His face, and turn from our wicked ways. He will hear from Heaven, forgive our sin and heal our land. IIChronicles 7:14. We ought always to be in prayer for our churches to return to the truth of the Gospel and forget about trying to entertain the masses. Pray for our families to be restored and our children to be delivered from the delusions of the drugs they are taking. Pray for forgiveness of the murders of millions of innocent babies in the womb, genocide, euthanasia of the old and weak and the mentally unstable and incompetent.

    I like that thought: What if they held a war and nobody came? What if they held a impeachment hearing and nobody showed up?

    There was a time in my life that I despaired about how to best protect my young children. Their father and I were divorced and he was a unindicted pedophile with joint custody (thanks to the courts) and unsupervised visitation. There was nothing I could do except pray. I did not pray for God to strike their father dead (and he is still living today) but I gave my babies to God. I prayed for him to protect them and I acknowledged my inability to protect them. God had already figured it out. Oh ye of little faith!! And I am not saying I did not want to pray for God to strike him dead.

    One weekend he did not show up to pick them up for his usual visit. I knew better than to take them away from the house lest he show up and become enraged because they were not available. We were hungry but he usually planned to take them out to eat or to his mother's for the meal and again, he would be very angry if they had been fed when he came to get them. I told them we would drive by his house to see what was going on and see what we needed to do. There was a for sale sign in the yard and the house was empty. He had moved away... 700 miles away. Frequent access would not be possible. The cycle of abuse was broken. And God protected my family by moving me and the children almost 400 miles in the opposite direction. God does answer the prayers of the righteous.

    Yes, that night I took them to our favorite restaurant and I celebrated God's Love, His Goodness and His Merciful Grace.

  • Carol Long

    10/15/2019 08:25 AM

    How can they just
    Lock all Republican Congressmen out of the meetings?? Aren’t they all Congressmen??? That, in and of itself, should be prosecuted!! Pelosi thinks she can tell the whole world what to do!! She needs to have a reality check!!! This “ proper decorum” bullshit has got to stop!! Because they only use it against the Republicans!!! Dems can say and do anything without consequence!!! It’s infuriating!!! We are really being OPPRESSED!!!??????. Talk about UNFAIR PRACTICE!!!! Sickening!! I wish she would just shrivel up and go away!! She’s as old as dirt and just as stupid!!!!??????

  • Debra Gilbert

    10/12/2019 08:59 AM

    It's sad and scary what they are trying to do and an embarrassment to our country. Thankful I left the Democratic party a number of years ago. Corruption is rampant. My home state of Illinois has the same corruption.

  • GLORIA SCOTT

    10/11/2019 11:15 AM

    What can Americans do to stop this madness?

  • Jerry Korba

    10/11/2019 11:09 AM

    Last nite Donald hit on a comment I made here a couple of months ago in regards to Omar getting elected. I blamed our Governor and Obama and past Presidents brought large numbers of people from one country (Somali) to Minneapolis without the people having anything to say about it. These people are not even native to our climate still they were dumped here they have no reason to become part of our way of life they stayed together in one community and kept their way of life and laws they were bound by their religion. No real assimilation to the society. The experiment does not enhance American values. One can look at Omar and this is what we got from this experience not many favor this lifestyle not many people marry their brother (hideous,) tax fraud although she is not alone, and clear hate for people thats just a few traits her voters bring. Nice for who? Not the majority for sure. Maybe we just don't understand their way of life thats because we live in Minnesota not Somali. If I want to live like a Solmai I will move there not going to happen; although if we took 150000 minnesotans there we could turn Somali into a resort Country A lot of changes would take place for the better. Will not happen we need to turn Minnesota Red first. MAGA Do not burn MAGA Hats dummies they will be worth a lot of money!

  • Ed Thompson

    10/11/2019 09:52 AM

    I have to say this— When “WE” — the ones who were living in the ‘60’s , we ,who were very much aware of what was going on— not under the influence of hallucinogens ,as you callously suggest for everyone who wore this as a statement towards the war (never declared by the way) —“What if they had a war and no one came”— was directed at ALL SIDES of ANY conflict— not just America’s involvement in Vietnam! You state the obvious when you say what “if” no one opposed the Germans in WWII — France,and indeed the world would be a very different place now—but you completely miss the mark on the statement ,that ,it applied to EVERYONE—EVERYBODY— PEOPLE— soldiers—everyone saying “NO”— hell no— have your war but without me!! It applied to all sides of all wars— not just the American soldier but also the one on the opposite side. Leaders should lead, people should be able to live in peace and their leaders should ALL learn that their citizens need to be treated with kindness and fairness and stop suppressing them and stop aggression towards their neighbors across their borders — RESPECT—not political correctness but respect and common sense and logic and morality are needed now more than ever. Three solid years of disrespect towards our current President is tearing our nation apart and it’s all completely based on lies and agendas and revenge that “they”— Democrats— have decided as their path to try to retake the White House. They have taken leave of their minds,embracing this stuff! Just when you think you can’t possibly hear anything else as ridiculous as what’s going on at the moment, they come back with something else completely as absurd or worse than the last one. “What if we had a government with people who cared about the people who elected them and actually remembered their own vows to support the laws of the constitution and worked FOR the citizens of America “? ! I know one person who is trying to do just that every single day—President Donald Trump. God Bless America—-PLEASE!!

  • Linda Olds

    10/11/2019 02:43 AM

    It's disgusting what the Dems, especially Pelosi and Schiff, are doing. (And Nadler and Schumer)
    Schiff doesn't care that his lies over the last few years about having evidence of Trump's wrongdoing, and his present "investigation", are tearing the country apart.
    Pelosi is just as bad, saying that AG Barr is " going rogue". This makes some people question the integrity of all of our government systems. It makes America appear weak. The Dems are playing right into the hands of the Russians, and they should be investigated for collusion with Russia.

  • Catherine Ann Jurs

    10/10/2019 11:33 PM

    The Left wing spokes people have spent all day quoting the Fox poll about how APX. 50% of the country want to impeach the president. Maybe some people are voting to impeach him just to call the Democrats bluff and get a fair and just hearing on all the so called evidence they think they have. Just a thought.

  • Jannette F. Dillingham

    10/10/2019 09:18 PM

    The Democrats are trying to run out the clock before the 2020 election. The only way they can do this is their tried and true method of lies and more lies until the lie becomes a "truth." Even if the truth comes out AFTER the 2020 election, they hope to win democratic elections across the country. Since the democrats are going about this illegally, the Republicans should take them to court, or sue them. I can't think of anything lowdown to get back at the democrats. However, I am praying that not one democrat wins any election in 2020.

  • Steven Lechtenberg

    10/10/2019 09:10 PM

    I’m surprised with everything that is happening that nobody has made a comparison between what is going on now and the founding of the country. What we have now is a political monarchy, not a constitutional republic. Just look at the dems when the camera is on them, which with their handlers the MSM calling the shots always happens, they are so smug, condescending and talk down to everyone. The democrats act like they are right and everybody else is wrong, and you dare not question us or else. The colonist went through the same situation that we are now experiencing. The colonist wants did not matter, so today neither do our wants. They were told this is the way it will be, as the democrats tell us this impeachment is the way it has to be. Our elected royalty, the democrats view us like the royalty in England viewed the colonist, people to rule how you want with no regard to established law and money when ever want by taxation. There are more comparisons but I think you are getting my point. Until we stand up to elected royalty kn own as the democrats we expect this treatment to continue. Thank God for our DULLY ELECTED PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. Just ask the democrats what have done for the good of th country since the 2016 election

  • John Prentice

    10/10/2019 08:46 PM

    Governor, do you believe any of the "players" on either side have the ability and temperament to arrange fatal accidents to their opponents if they become cornered?

  • Helen Corey

    10/10/2019 07:52 PM

    The President has become battle hardened. Thank you Lord for giving him the stamina to withstand the liars surrounding him. Give him the stamina to serve US another 4 years.

  • dolores varricchio

    10/10/2019 07:51 PM

    innocent until proven guilty doesn't see to be in the democrates vocabulary. I am very frustrated because this is not allowing due process and the Democrates seem to me to think they are above the law and no one is stopping them. I have called my Reps. ( I live in NY) so that means I have no real representation. Schumer and Kilibrand do not believe in We the People and I have not heard enough of the out cry from Republicans in general or my Rep in Long Island Peter King. Having called and donated to the RNC and President Trump I feel there is nothing else I can do but stand by and watch my country being torn apart by traitors. What a shame. Suggestion why doesn't Republicans do advertisements on tv all over telling everyone what the Dems are doing. This way all the "uninformed" would hear what is happening or how about a speech by Trump - it worked with Reagan he did it all the time when he wanted Congress to vote on something. Something drastic should be done before it is to late.

  • Deborah McCallum

    10/10/2019 06:27 PM

    Gov Huckabee, it is a good time for your site to take suggestions from readers for a new name for the "Democratic" Party. The word no longer is a descriptor of this whining group of swamp dwellers unable to recognize a legitimately elected President.

  • rodney burke

    10/10/2019 05:33 PM

    I read the letter on FB, does it EVER rip the libs a new one!. Yu are right, they can't say obstruction, there isn't anything but their fake desire to remove him by framing him. There IS no intelligence in that committee except for the GOP. Dems have lost all symblance of intelligence to blatant insanity over the word impeachment. If Nancy gets stupid and has a real vote and we do things right, they will be humiliated in the house. Rudi and the republicans will destroy their entire argument on the floor of the house. Which will be on C Span no less. This is getting hilarious. The case will be destroyed in congress and the senate won't have to do anything but sit back and laugh as the communists make UTTER fools of themselves. Now, if arrest come before this happens it's all a moot point anyway. Personally I'd like to see the halfwits get ripped to shreds before they are arrested and then suffer a double humiliation.

  • Susanna Donovan

    10/10/2019 05:23 PM

    A "Committee" cannot Impeach a President. We need to see witnesses, and get this in the open. If the House has no vote on the Impeachment, it is not valid. Even the Washington Post knows that!!!

  • Ellie Early

    10/10/2019 04:35 PM

    Wish I could say something witty about this whole rotten mess, but it’s just a sorrowful time for we inhabitants of this great Country!
    Satan lead people who only thrive on power are driving us into the ground with their incessant plundering of our President in order to achieve their goal of control. If this same energy was spent on building our Country instead of destroying and weakening it we would be the most revered Country in the world, but no, three years has been spent using taxpayers dollars to chase after a non existent “cause !”
    The division that has been caused by these power crazy people is unforgivable. I pray that our Creator will take away the hardening of the hearts of all persons who are responsible for this great sadness & hatred in this the greatest Country on this planet.

  • Joe Broadway

    10/10/2019 04:07 PM

    I think Republicans should get a judge and suppoenia Schiff computers and find the whisleblowers complaint that he himself wrote. Maybe suppoenia his whole office. We know he wrote it. Hell knock his doors down at 4 in the morning, guns drawn and get his home computers. Its time to play hardball.

  • Velma Ardis Marshall

    10/10/2019 03:56 PM

    As usual, your comments are right on. Thank you for what you are doing to support the conservatives. I also want to let you know that I found today's article you wrote in my spam filter. I find a lot of emails from conservatives there, especially Republicans from congress.

  • Mike Horst

    10/10/2019 03:54 PM

    You know I see all these polls showing Trump losing to every Democrat front runner. Additionally I see now that FOX did a poll showing that 51% of the voters polled want Trump removed from office. I say that it is nonsense. In order to be believed they need to disclose who, where and how these polls were done. I have participated in several online conservative polls that show Trump having an approval rating of 65% or higher. That doesn't sound like impeachment to me.

  • Janet Stuart

    10/10/2019 03:49 PM

    It's only real men like you who dare to stand up for us with a hammer-fist and a mocking manner and a chuckle and God's word in mind all the while. Thank you, dear man, for lending yourself to this awesome task. Janet

  • Mike Horst

    10/10/2019 03:44 PM

    Mike...I have given this impeachment nonsense a lot of thought and I have to wonder if the Democrats actually know what they want or are doing. This partisan Democrat impeachment of Trump is new territory for everyone. The Democrats are walking around in the dark trying to decide what do next. I think they would be better served and the country as well to just back off and tell the American people that they have reconsidered their position on Impeaching Trump at this time and let the voters decide in 2020. If they don't do so I think they are going to loose big time as the Republican controlled Senate will more than likely wipe the floor with them.

  • Michael Moody

    10/10/2019 03:42 PM

    Dear Mike:

    I would like to follow up on this matter with some suggestions. I am just a nobody and as I am sure you will note, nobody is listening to nobody in Washington.

    It is frightening me that staff members of a group that Rudy Guiliani is leading on the defense of Donald Trump was arrested today. I didn't bother with reading the article on this matter so I may be off base, but there are some points to be made:

    First, what were the charges and were the parties arraigned on these parties. One brief item on this matter said something about campaign financing issues. If that is so, who issued the warrant? Was it the FEC where Lois Lerner used to work in a closely connected capacity as an SES? If that is the case, I suggest that a letter be written by counsel from the highest level of government requesting that the Inspector General for the agency conduct interviews of all the parties associated with this arrest warrant to determine under oath who requested that such a warrant be issued.

    I would follow up with a request that the Finance Campaign Committee for Ilhan Omar be investigated for campaign finance violations. I have seen indications in the media that there are problems with Ms. Ilhan's campaign finance committee. Such an investigation should also attempt to determine if prohibited overseas donations were made to that campaign finance committee.

    I would also like to see or rather to know that an IG investigation is made by the IG office at the top of the organization in the Directorate of National Intelligence as it is known now. It is true that the whistle blower act protects the identity of anyone who makes a statement under the act. But the routing of such complaints is supposed to be set in stone or so I was given to understand in countless mandatory, training classes on the subject. So why did it make it out of the line of routing for such actions? Did the person who supposedly prepare this complaint have help and what kind of help? Yes, the whistle blower act prepares the one who makes such complaints from reprisals. But there is no protection in any federal document from false statements. Unless the individual was in the room, his statement is hearsay and he or she is very possibly suffering from a cowardly supervisor who told the employee to sign the document.

    There is at least the appearance of collusion in this matter and all the people on the investigative commission should receive a letter from Counsel for the House on their duties to act in an ethical manner in keeping with the law. Perhaps the minority members of the House can request such a letter.

    If you find any merit in these matter, I hope you would find some way to pass these thoughts on at least to Rudy Guiliani. He is a very good attorney and the power mad dictators in feckless Nanci Pelosi's House have forgotten that.

    Mike Moody

  • Sarah Yoho

    10/10/2019 03:35 PM

    if president Trump is impeached followed by the impeachment of vice-president Pence, doesn't that make speaker Pelosi president?

  • Bill Mills

    10/10/2019 02:51 PM

    It is really hard to understand how 51% of surveyed people can think that President Trump should be impeached, when there has been no evidence that he committed a high crime or misdemeanor. I can only believe that the unfair (really the disgustingly unfair) treatment that CNN and other main stream media have given to this President has had an effect. A quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels (If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.) comes directly into play. I just hope people will eventually think clearly enough to know that this "impeachment process" is purely political and is very shameful.