Democrats embrace tax reform fantasy

December 21, 2017

Democrats have spewed forth a lot of ridiculously over-the-top reactions to the passage of the GOP tax reform bill (it’s Armageddon, the death of democracy, the worst bill ever passed, etc.), but one of the most colorful came from California Rep. Jackie Spiere, who said this (full quote at the link):

“This may be the most shameful day in the history of Congress…We’re going to put 9 million kids in this country at risk. And these 9 million kids aren’t eligible for Medicaid, and their families can’t afford the Affordable Care Act. Because they have to pay a certain amount and the subsidized amount doesn’t cover the cost… Wealthy Americans, big fat Christmas present for you. Tiny Tim, we’re taking your crutch away from you and all the other kids in this country, and we’re putting a lump of coal into your Christmas stocking.”

I don’t know what the Democrats are most appalled by: the idea of cutting people’s taxes or that it might help the coal industry.  This again reveals the liberal mindset that letting you keep some of your own money is a “present” from the government, as if all money is really theirs. I also wonder if she recognizes the irony in referring to families who “can’t afford the Affordable Care Act” (Who can?!  By the way, the bill takes away the mandate forcing Americans to buy insurance they didn’t want or couldn’t afford. They can still buy Obamacare insurance, it’s just assumed that at least 9 million Americans will stop doing it if they don’t have a gun to their heads.  That’s not “taking away” their health coverage.)


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But it was that loopy “Tiny Tim” metaphor and the idea that letting people keep a little more of the money they earn is tantamount to taking his crutch away that was most intriguing (and does she recognize the irony in referring to government benefits as a crutch?)  It inspired me to examine in more detail just how this bill would have affected Tim’s family, the Cratchits. 

According to Dickens, Scrooge paid Bob Cratchit 15 shillings a week.  It’s difficult to assess exactly, but relying on Internet inflation calculators, that would be about 90 pounds today, or $120 US.  Considering he probably put in at least 60 hours a week, that’s $2 an hour, well below current minimum wage.  (Although New York University political scientist Bruce Bueno de Mesquita has pointed out that the going rate for a clerk at that time was 12 shillings a week, so you could argue that Scrooge was actually generous by prevailing standards.  He also noted that the Cratchits are described as poor, but they could afford their own house, a Christmas goose, 15 rounds of gin punch and a bowl of oranges, the most expensive imported fruit in London in winter in 1843.  But I’d better stop before the Democrats declare the Cratchits part of the evil 1% and try to raise their taxes.) 

Anyway, if the Cratchits lived in today’s America and paid taxes, the tax credit for each of their six children would double from $1000 to $2000.  But even if Scrooge had to nearly quadruple Bob’s salary to minimum wage, they still wouldn’t make enough to pay taxes (the bottom 50% of earners currently pay nothing.)  The family would still be eligible for food stamps, Medicaid or a full Obamacare subsidy, the CHIP program and various other benefits, including a larger check from the government for the new tax bill’s increased tax credit for each child.  Washington bless us, every one!   

You know, I used to think that “A Christmas Carol” might be the most imaginative piece of fantasy fiction ever created.  But then I heard the Democrats’ descriptions of this tax bill.

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  • Bill Goldsby

    12/26/2017 07:03 PM

    I was appalled by the length of time and the number of lies being spewed out with the Tax Reform Bill. Anyone with a fair understanding of basic math can understand that the more you make, the more your saving even if the percentage amount is the same across the board.

    Also, anyone with an understanding of tax principles can figure if your base income is reduced by a larger base exemption them your taxable income will be less therefore your taxes will be less.

    I really appreciated the one network that had a New York CPA do a comparison of three families throughout the US. A single mother with one child, a married couple, no children and a couple with 3 children. All ended up with a savings in their taxes. The big winner, the family from you guessed it California, the CPA projected a $13,000 refund since with the reform they would now qualify for credits they previously were not eligible for. So much for the California Senators lies about it hurting us in California.

    As for the comment by Ms. Hardesty, there are plenty of hardworking Conservatives in Northern California too. We also want to not only drain the DC swamp, we want to Flush the Brown Administration down the Sacramento River!(saying it politely)

    I just pray continually for America and that we will prevai. With leadership like President Trump's, I can see it happening but we need to work on the Grassroots efforts spending the word, daily.

  • Diane Woodard

    12/24/2017 11:06 AM

    Everyone who has spoken out has spoken my thoughts. We really must kill the "ACA" if only to allow insurors admittance to the market to present their choices of coverage. There can still be a participatiing coverage offered to those who have pre-existing conditions. I worked in the insurance industry for many years and am well aware of types of insurance coverages which have been written when there is a great need for them. Also, I am fighting mad as my neice is locked into an "ACA" coverage for which she must pay the first $5,000 per annum. She has developed some very serious health issues for which she cannot afford to seek treatment. I feel certain there are millions of families who face a similar delima. I believe the repeal of the "aca" is mandantory NOW! aLL the new jobs and tax breaks cannot help middle class families. They all need really affordable health care which is AFFORDABLE!

  • Cathy Kilminster

    12/24/2017 07:04 AM

    The Democrats keeping digging themselves a bigger hole. I have never seen such a brainless bunch of people. I;ll never understand how anyone can support them or even begin to believe what they are saying. Pelosi and Schummer need to bag it and leave Congress with their wonderful pensions paid for by us. Thank God for Trump, and he is a tough guy. He is the one we needed to save America from Obama.

  • Dolores Parsons

    12/23/2017 12:15 PM

    Scrooge gave the Crachits the Goose, remember??

  • [email protected]

    12/23/2017 06:29 AM

    With the constant dose of false information and twisted truths I at this point could never vote Democratic. Pray for them they really need it!!

  • Victoria Hardesty

    12/22/2017 10:12 PM

    I noticed a lot of folks believe all Californians are liberal dems. Believe me, that is not the case. I live in Southern California which is worlds apart from the dem idiots up north and have many, many friends who know: the media is biased, the dems are full of crap, and Mr. Trump has done a record breaking year of exactly what he told us he would do. When he adds 1.7 million jobs in one year, the stock market breaks records 60 times and trades over 24K for the first time ever, and unemployment is the lowest it's been in 17 years, why don't we hear about that on the National News??? Not all Californians are looney toons. Some of us pay attention and cheer!

  • Robin Huller

    12/22/2017 09:26 PM

    Thank you for your alway thoughtful, positive comments. I appreciate your unselfish, courageous stands on behalf of the American people.
    Please keep up the "good fight".

  • Sandy Taylor

    12/22/2017 06:08 PM

    Oh, how I love your Dickens analysis! Had the novella been set in contemporary USA rather than Merry Old England, there wouldn't have been much of a story. Scrooge could've slept right through Christmas while the Cratchits celebrated the blessings of living in the greatest country on earth. People from California get confused about stuff, though.

  • Sandy Taylor

    12/22/2017 06:05 PM

    If she lived in some other countries (which she should if she thinks it is so bad here) she would be jailed (at least) for making those comments.

  • David H Diatikar

    12/22/2017 03:57 PM

    Individual responsibility is the issue here and the outcomes. We are NOT a village. We are a community of individuals bound together as a nation.

  • Tom Buttram

    12/22/2017 03:40 PM

    Mike: look at yourself; count the pixels you dedicated to answering stupid. You said she's from CALIFORNIA! That excuses her comments from consideration. Stupid stands alone and doesn't need amplification. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  • Scerita Dugas

    12/22/2017 02:50 PM

    Yes the Dems always want to be negative, but we deplorables can think for ourselves and we know the truth - this is a winner!

  • Nancy L. Davis

    12/22/2017 02:24 PM

    These are evil, horrible people who will stop at nothing to push their evil agendas. They've proven that over the years but it's worse now than ever before. I pray to our Most High God to stop them once and for all and bring them down. I pray that the nets and traps they set for President Trump and his awesome agenda, THEY THEMSELVES will fall into that trap and we'll never have to listen to their silly, awful, twisted, biased rhetoric again.....EVER!
    God, bring them down, Chuck S, Nancy P, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren, Elijah Cummings, and all of the others who voice their twisted lies to the world. Bring them down Father....in the name of Jesus....AMEN!

  • Nancy L. Davis

    12/22/2017 02:12 PM

    Thank you for making me feel better when the world around me is so negative. I think President Trump is doing a great job in keeping his promises. It is so consoling to know that the men in charge believe in our God. I keep all of you in my prayers.
    Nancy L. Davis
    Chesapeake, VA 23320

  • Jay Bryant

    12/22/2017 01:32 PM

    You've got to consider the source and the locale from which this crap spews. I honestly don't think anyone listens to anybody from California anymore.

  • Sandra Goodwin

    12/22/2017 01:24 PM

    That women is shameful and full of crap as a Christmas turkey !!!

  • Eddie Byrn

    12/22/2017 01:16 PM

    I would like to see someone (who may be in a position to actually do something) publically speak out against the national debt accumulation. Stop national debt accumulation; reverse it to zero. The only ones benefiting from the debt are the big money guys and others working to derail our country.

  • Stanley McKinley

    12/22/2017 12:47 PM

    Your comments are getting so long and drawn out we lose the point.

  • Gary Brownlee

    12/22/2017 12:43 PM

    I am a 74 year old male, a life-long Republican, and glad that the tax bill passed. At the same time, I wonder if the wealthy class in this country which has such a big impact on how the rest of our society lives by determining job opportunities, wages, and benefits really understands that if they don't reach out to improve the lives of those around them now that it might be their last chance to stave off a serious move to a socialist state. I wonder if President Trump has set in motion the warning to the rich that instead of padding their already full pockets, going out to buy the biggest yacht or the most luxurious house that it is time to be satisfied with what you have and voluntarily improve the lives of the middle-class people who work for them. I am not talking about welfare here but rather about fairness in providing living wages and proper benefits to families in this country. If this change in the tax system fails, and more people struggle to live while watching the wealthy classes buy "stuff", the Demos. will win the presidency, the house, and the Senate for years to come. I will not be here to see it, but I worry for my children and grandchildren.

    Thanks for reading my comment, Mike. I respect your opinion on these matters.

  • ANDREA M WILSON

    12/22/2017 12:21 PM

    That was a good article! I also noted the irony in "not being able to afford the Affordable Care Act" that the Democrats themselves thought was the end all , be all to the health system today!

  • Diane Woodard

    12/22/2017 12:13 PM

    Do you really understand the "mindset" of democrats? I have never understood their hatefullnes, weird metaphors, and terminal ignorance. I am very thankfu;l that I have never voted for a Democrat...NEVER!

  • Dot Whitley

    12/22/2017 12:12 PM

    It doesn't matter what Trump has a part in ,because a liberal is going to be against it without even thinking it through. I have more respect for a drunkard than a liberal.
    Thank you for doing the math on Cratchit's salary. Some folks have to have a lot of proof to convince them that a conservative can ever do anything right.
    I wish a lot of those in Washington would be thrown out, or for some miraculous reason just quit.

  • Bill Watson

    12/22/2017 12:06 PM

    Her comment is best put by Bah, humbug!

  • Larry HADDEN

    12/22/2017 11:55 AM

    I may have mentioned this before, but it seems so much more appropriate again; emblematically speaking (and personally at it fits), "When a jackass (or jenny) brays, what else can you expect to hear but the sounds of a jackass?"

  • Roland Sneed

    12/22/2017 11:47 AM

    I am sick and tired of stupid liberal Democrats who talk out both sides of their mouth depending on whether or not it benefits them. I had a liberal relative told me that lying was ok if it got you want you wanted.

  • Joseph Trokey

    12/22/2017 11:26 AM

    I sincerely believe the politicians go by the Pelosi motto, which is "we won't know what's in the bill until we pass it". If they were really interested in my welfare they would find a way to stay out of my business and do what they are supposed to do in the first place. The national government was set up to protect us from foreign powers. The states were set up to take care of homeland issues. You have those people in D.C. who came from the state they are supposed to represent, but haven't actually lived in the state for so long they don't know the real issues anymore. And how would they know anything about the poor? The wages they make put them in a tax bracket I have never seen, and I think I'm blessed. Pleased don't sit there and pretend to know anything about the poor when you are never in contact with them and please don't pretend to know what's in a tax bill when you haven't read it.

  • Shauna Dickerson

    12/22/2017 11:23 AM

    And when will the Race Card be played. Surely it's in there somewhere

  • Charles D Johnston

    12/22/2017 11:11 AM

    It has indeed been fun to watch the Democrat's wailing and gnashing of teeth as they spewed ever more fanciful nightmares about the dreaded tax bill. The truth, as well as the tremendous boost to the economy, is only starting to be told and this one piece of legislation could insure another Trump victory in 2020. I love it!

  • Debra Black

    12/22/2017 11:10 AM

    All I see are the Democrats acting like children kicking and screaming with their ridiculous rhetoric. The working class people deserve a little break. People will work hard when they know they are appreciated. We need to turn this country back to its roots. Those roots were strong.
    Also, Nancy needs to fix the forest in her own back yard before another catastrophe happens.
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family. :)

  • Robin Huller

    12/22/2017 11:07 AM

    Thank you for your alway thoughtful, positive comments. I appreciate your unselfish, courageous stands on behalf of the American people.
    Please keep up the "good fight".

  • Dan Cline

    12/22/2017 11:06 AM

    I have a frog, I see a cat, therefore I am a dog ... where is her logic from? How does someone like this seek, and gain, public office? I am reminded of standing in job-interview lines close to graduating college, and noting that the bottom of the class (gpa of 2.0 and below) stood in lines for government jobs - all the rest went to private industry (and the high paying jobs). I couldn't help think then how much this was going to effect us down the road.. it is clear now that these same bottom-of-the-barrel morons are now in charge of our government, at all levels.. time to boot these guys to the curb.. all of them.

  • Janet Hale

    12/22/2017 11:03 AM

    Very well put! The Democrats can't stand that OUR nation can stand on its own two feet, without their hand outs!

  • Mark Dries

    12/22/2017 10:51 AM

    The Leftist Democrats do the American people a disservice along with MSM surrogates who cry, and denigrate good tax policy . Grow up and offer a solution to Americans. Your lack of leadership and distortions to this important tax discussion is reckless and not helpful to our political debate!

  • John Burks

    12/22/2017 10:50 AM

    The dems hate anything that gives Americans more of their own money in their own pockets. The dems live in the land of the Unicorn and other mythical beasts. In the minds of the dems they know everything and all they say and do is true. How can so many know so little?

  • Daniel L

    12/22/2017 10:36 AM

    An interesting thought, which always seems to be forgotten is that we elect government representatives to protect our rights as they are provided in the greatest governing document ever created in the history of mankind, the US Constitution. And yet we continue to allow those who want to rule over us with suffocating rules and regulations, taxation and domination - instead of enabling us. When we have elections we support the status quo instead of voting them out. When it comes time to vote, a pathetic 25-30% of the electorate bothers to get off their butts and go vote, and so we get what we have. Constitutional conservativism, free market capitalism, with a small dose of social welfare for those who TRULY cant provide for themselves - is what made our country great. Yet we allow them (the establishment elite in both parties) to divide us, over tax us, take our constitutional rights, call us racists to silence us, and force abominations of humanity on us- in order to rule over us. Wake up America or we will lose our great country, our children and their children will never know it, and the world will be a far darker place. Thank God for President Trump.

  • Sarah Steele Lopez

    12/22/2017 10:36 AM

    I think the TIny Tim comment about taking his crutch away was a Freudian slip!! The liberals want to keep people dependant on them and make them think they can't make it without their help. I was watching Fox yesterday and one of the Democratic Senators said that we needed to give all of the illegal immigrants I.D.'s and make them "documented". When asked if it was because they might be future voters, he all too quickly answered "Possibly." That's their goal right there. Forget the fact that so many are taking money away that could be used to help our own citizens and infrastructure, or that they are commiting crimes and even killing our citizens. Also, the liberal Democrats are always SO melodramatic; if Republicans do anything, it's Armageddon, we're killing people, etc. I wish the mainstream media would honestly report the news. Unless you watch Fox or read one of the conservative publications, you're not getting the truth or the whole story. Thank you Gov. Huckabee, for your common sense and honesty!! I love listening to you and reading your blogs. I have always felt a kinship with you; I am also named Sarah and the daughter of a Southern Baptist minister from Arkansas! God bless you and your family.

  • Kevin Cook

    12/22/2017 10:35 AM

    Spiere like all Democrats speak and sound just like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Soros and all Communist

  • Tony Antelman

    12/22/2017 10:32 AM

    Well written Huck! I especially like your last sentence "You know, I used to think that “A Christmas Carol” might be the most imaginative piece of fantasy fiction ever created. But then I heard the Democrats’ descriptions of this tax bill." I was thinking the exact same thing myself. They should get out of politics and into writing fiction. Then, it wouldn't be as hard to suspend disbelief.

  • Frank J Subasic SR

    12/22/2017 10:31 AM

    CUT Spending " Drain the Swamp"; DON'T weaken

  • Mike Hutch

    12/22/2017 10:29 AM

    To call this tax bill Armageddon, I have said this earlier, Jackie and her crew need to get out their offices and view the results of the wild fires, that is Armageddon!!!!

  • Patrica Karren Reed

    12/22/2017 10:29 AM

    It makes one wonder if in time the liberals will realize they are in a better place or will they continue to bemoan their "terrible situation" of having more money to live on and less government control.

  • Geraldine F. Habitz

    12/22/2017 10:28 AM

    Those nine million kids.......since she doesn't mention who they are -------would they by any chance be illegals?

  • Jim Gray

    12/22/2017 10:21 AM

    Mike, I appreciate your writings and commentary. I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. At a local fitness center I saw the slogan "Wishing you a Merry Fitness and a Happy New Rear", but with today's state of mind among the people, I'm afraid that could be considered offensive to some women and maybe some men, leading to a possible suit. We are moving to a humor-less society. Once it was said "Laughter is the best medicine". Watching television, poor Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer never laugh it appears. Those two and so many other Democrats make it party politics to scream "The sky is falling" every time Trump full fills one of his campaign promises...you know, those things the voters elected him to do. I voted for Trump. I am not a deplorable. I am not an insane person. I AM an American. I am a legal American. I am college educated. I am a father and a grandfather. I am a tax payer. And I am grateful Hillary Clinton is not in a position of power. In all of my 61 years, she has been the most corrupt person I have come across. Have a Merry Christmas, pass along my appreciation to daughter Sarah. She is doing a tremendous job.

  • Alan C. Fitzgerald

    12/22/2017 10:19 AM

    After 8 years of Obama, virtually ALL our reserves, set aside for retirement, have disappeared! It is going to be very difficult to replace them since I am now retired, and at my age, (87) unlikely to be able to find employment!

  • William Bailey

    12/22/2017 10:15 AM

    You are extremely biased against Democrats. I am an independent. You think Donald Trump is a good Christian. He is not. Donald Trump will do anything to win including cheating. You need to take a good look at his 3500 lawsuits and all the people he has destroyed. That is not what a Christian looks like. And he will get his judgment like we all will when the time comes. And I know you will not answer this email.

  • Ann Faught

    12/22/2017 10:06 AM

    and WHO would expect ANYTHING else from whining democraps.... this was very entertaining to say the least... Merry Christmas Governor...you are a TREASURE

  • Alice Collier

    12/22/2017 10:03 AM

    Dear Mr. Huckabee,

    I love reading you. You make me laugh at the words you choose and are so "right on!" I pass on your information to friends and they also enjoy what you say and how you say it. Please keep on doing what you're doing.

    Sincerely,
    Alice Collier

    P.S. I also love reading Newt Gingrich. He is a bit more academic but is still a smart, conservative man who loves the USA. I am grateful every day that We The People stood together and elected President Trump. He is an amazing man, cunning businessman, true patriot, and champion for the common man. (This last one, I don't understand, but think God has blessed us with him.) Also, your daughter is truly AMAZING. I hope that when she is tearing those stupid reporters a new one, she can hear all of us -- her fans -- cheering: "Go Sarah! Go Sarah! Go Sarah!" Congratulations on raising a smart, strong, conservative daughter. :)

  • tom jeffs

    12/22/2017 09:59 AM

    Planned Parenthood should be enticed to split into two entities - - - - - - - one which performs abortions and one which provides all other services EXCEPT abortions ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    simple, huh ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

  • Lex Politz

    12/22/2017 09:58 AM

    Merry Christmas! You must be very proud of your daughter, I do a lot of driving and listening to her on Fox Business Channel with the press is entertaining to say the least. My morning starts with ABC news with all the twisted and spinned facts, then I tune in Fox to get the real story. In 2015 I lost the best job I ever had due to Obama regulations, I was 62. After 2 years I got my great Job back in part to Trump becoming our President. Today I have such great hopes for the future of my country, children and grandchild, because of the Trump promises being kept! Mike, you were my choice for President, the only politician I have ever donated to. God Bless and keep up the good works!

  • vincent accardi

    12/22/2017 09:57 AM

    Merry Christmas to you & yours in this unbelievable year Gov. May God keep you Joyful, Healthy & Happy in the New Year.
    Not disrespecting your prior political job but is there a required course in this country for Gov't workers, politicians & lets not forget the MSM, on "How To Lie Or Bullshit Your Constituents & The General Public At Large", ? I swear it must be so. Were it not for people like you, who ACTUALLY tell the truth, while embellishing somewhat I'm sure, the public is in the shape it's in because of all the mixed messaging & who you can trust to give a somewhat honest answer or a truthful response to any legitimate question. The skew is so multi-directional it's staggering. Finding an honest assessment from someone, anyone, is refreshing, warranted & welcomed.
    I want to thank you for this website & your TV show, for the clarity it brings to all Americans who are floundering for honest answers.