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July 15, 2022
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In yesterday’s J6 committee hearing update, I told you about THE NEW YORK TIMES’ odd story on Ray Epps, which painted him as a victim of right-wing conspiracy theorists. Epps says he plans to sue those who’ve accused him of working undercover for the FBI to encourage Trump supporters to “go inside the Capitol.”
Tucker Carlson has repeatedly reported on the Ray Epps suspicions, and he fought back against the NYT story Thursday evening. Apparently, Tucker said, in all the time the NYT reporter spent with Epps (a whole day), he was never asked what he meant to accomplish by telling the crowd to go into the building. “It’s all very strange,” Tucker said. “THE NEW YORK TIMES has mounted a propaganda campaign on behalf of a self-described Trump voter insurrectionist.” What’s going on here?

“It’s almost like they’re trying to cover something up,” he said.

Tucker found it interesting that the NYT specifically includes this: “Mr. Epps also said he regretted sending a text to his nephew, well after the violence had erupted, in which he discussed how he helped to orchestrate the movements of people who were leaving Mr. Trump’s speech near the White House by pointing them in the direction of the Capitol.”  He theorizes that since we’ve heard nothing at all till now about this particular text, the main purpose of the NYT piece might have been to “drop that little bomblet at the end in the least damaging way.”

Also, the piece fails to mention whether Epps had any contacts with any federal agencies in the period leading up to the rally. Why wouldn’t the NYT ask him about that?

But the article does tell us that Epps might be in mortal danger from Mexican drug cartels. Talk about a non sequitur; how are Mexican drug cartels involved in the story of January 6?

Darren Beattie of REVOLVER NEWS, who has done outstanding reporting on January 6, pointed out that “in the entire piece, there is no blanket, explicit denial on the part of Epps to have been associated with any intelligence group, DHS, JTTF [Joint Terrorism Task Force], military intelligence, so forth. [He] just reiterates his very legal denial of being involved with law enforcement.” Also, “the piece describes Epps as a Trump supporter...on a last-minute thing with his son to attend Trump’s speech on election fraud. The only thing is, Epps didn’t attend the speech. Epps travels all the way from Arizona to DC, this big Trump supporter, and he doesn’t even attend the speech?”

No, he “fixates on this bizarre mission to get everyone to go into the Capitol?” And he happens to be “hanging out right by the initial breach point...before the Proud Boys even get there?”

The piece also doesn’t discuss how Epps got this idea. “Here’s the one person calling for everyone to go in,” and the NYT doesn't ask him that. Did he come up with it himself after he got there? Did someone tell him to do it?

Epps’ behavior was “so egregious,” Beattie said, that he was in the top 20 on the FBI Most Wanted list and even featured in a NYT documentary on January 6. “And now, he’s unarrested, unindicted, and he’s the only January 6 rioter about whom Adam Kinzinger has nice things to say and THE NEW YORK TIMES is writing puff pieces about.”

We still need to know about the roles played by law enforcement, intelligence and the military on that day and the days leading up to it. “When they won’t answer a question and call you names for asking it, maybe there’s something there,” Tucker concluded.

Of course, as we reported yesterday, Adam Schiff is doing his best to keep the next Congress --- almost certainly destined to be GOP-led --- from looking into questions like that.

Article after article is parroting what the NYT reported about Epps. They use the phrase “unfounded conspiracy theory” to describe suspicions about him. “Baseless” is another popular adjective, which is used here just as reflexively as it is in articles on election fraud (another issue for which suspicions are not, in reality, baseless). Here’s one example:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/ray-epps-forced-into-hiding-by-tucker-carlsons-jan-6-conspiracy-theories-breaks-silence-all-of-this-has-just-been-hell/

Here’s another:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporter-ray-epps-january-6-conspiracy-theory-ruined-life-2022-7

If you have a strong stomach and the time and inclination to read these, you’ll see that Tucker is right about the big questions regarding Epps’ behavior not being asked. I’m in no way defending the harassment and death threats Epps says he’s received, but, really, why WASN’T he arrested and charged for doing the same thing (and more) that got others locked up without bail? Why WAS he dropped from the FBI Most Wanted list? BUSINESS INSIDER simply says that “the FBI has not publicly commented on allegations that Epps was working with them or why he was not charged.”
Epps was caught on camera blatantly encouraging what the left condemns as “insurrectionist” behavior. The fact that he wasn’t arrested and jailed and treated with the same lack of due process as others were who did much less --- Brandon Straka, who also never entered the Capitol and was much more peaceful, comes to mind --- makes no sense. So my guess is that some piece of information is missing. Whether or not Epps was working with the feds, something about this story smells off.
The NYT ran an earlier piece on Epps, in May, reporting that during discovery for some of those protesters who, unlike Epps, were actually facing charges, some recordings of interviews were found to support the claim that he tried to calm another protester before that person confronted cops at the barricades and effectively triggered the breach.  He's said to have whispered to the man, Ryan Samsel, something like, "Dude, relax; the cops are doing their job," not encouraging him to riot as has been alleged.
This detail, even if true, still doesn't tell us why Epps was so insistent the night before that protesters go inside the building and why law enforcement took such an uncharacteristic hands-off approach with him.

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  • Ed Thompson

    07/16/2022 01:24 PM

    Reading everything about Ray Epps makes me come to my own conclusions that he is connected with high up and powerful people who are the truth behind everything that happened on Jan 6 and still in position of power. This looks more and more like everything was planned well ahead of President Trumps speech to make a point of embarrassment for the Republican Party and President Trump. Now who do we all know that has this kind of power in Washington DC ? Bet you a dollar they have a big “D” in-front of their name!

  • Joseph Abraham

    07/16/2022 01:05 PM

    This is just me but I think that this was a conspiracy by the democrat party, with Nancy Pelosi at the head to stop the questioning about discrepancies in the election in some of the states and to once again accuse Donald Trump to keep him from running again. I believe the reason Ray Epps wasn't elected is because he either works for the FBI or others, or that he was hired by Pelosi.

  • Michelle Clark

    07/16/2022 11:31 AM

    I believe the Republican senators would be re-elected if their campaign funds went straight to discovery on stories like this. They need to hammer, hammer, hammer.... bad reporters, government officials, police response (FBI involvement) and Congress. Call out those congressional leaders hiding information and now trying to change the law to protect their collective asses when the truth finally comes out.
    We as a nation need to call out every new rage against our republic.
    Our domestic power grid for example, needs FIXED, not made less racist or more green. The list of rage against the democrat machine grows every day. When is enough enough? Many nations have had enough of the social experiment for citizens to overthrow their governments - every week another revolt.
    Maybe we should inform the powers that be that we have had enough of their diatribes, vindictiveness, lies and power plays costing us trillions in national debt. We can't afford to live with all the costs going up and the overload of taxes. The emperor has no clothes and all who believe he does needs to go.

  • Beverly Raye Tischler

    07/15/2022 07:06 PM

    Mike, it is so very clear that Pelosi is desperate to get rid of Trump. This theater production she orchestrated was done solely to indict Trump so Dems would not have to deal with him at the 2024 presidential election. Democrats WILL NOT LET GO of the POWER they have gained under Obama and Biden........so Trump has to be disabled and they have been working at this since before the last election, and they succeeded then by getting more votes COUNTED for Biden.

  • Andrea M. Stovall

    07/15/2022 04:09 PM

    My question: isn't there a video of the police moving a barricade and motioning people to come through?

  • Sarah Gospodarek

    07/15/2022 03:02 PM

    I thought long ago that this was a "setup" against Conservatives and Trump. After viewing the video last night on Tucker and see Epps shout about getting into the Capital, made me think I was right. Now to see how this plays out and if they can tie him to some of our leaders who refused to increase police until too late. Please, Republicans! Speak up!!!

  • Angela L Lawson

    07/15/2022 02:45 PM

    Governor Huckabee, it is obvious to me that this Epps was a bought and paid for "Mole". Like most folks who are untrustworthy, "they have a price". There is so much corruption, I am lost in the mire. I really have such a hard time trying to figure out who the real "good guys" are in this whole January 6th Debacle. I am so angry that instead of actually attempting to fix the downward spiral of our United States on every front from The World Stage to Inflation in the US with millions crossing Our Southern Border bringing in criminals, disease, drugs, and prostitution and this inept Administration is going for The 3rd Trump Impeachment! How desperate these people are!

  • Marilyn Hellmuth

    07/15/2022 02:38 PM

    Dear Governor Huckabee,
    I believe that this entire January 6 theater was planned and executed by Nancy Pelosi. She refused President Trumps offer of National Guard Troops, She made sure that the Capitol Police were lightly staffed. She arranged for some of the Capitol police to open doors and assist people inside the Capitol. She even arranged for some DOJ and FBI agents to be on the scene. The person who placed the bomb outside of the democrat office has not been found ( she arranged that also or he would have been in jail now). The entire scenario was staged so that the communists could claim another impeachable offense against President Trump. Much like the Russia hoax that haunted us. And to top it off, she has declared herself unquestionable by the Lynch mob that she selected, or anyone else.
    Just my thought.
    Marilyn

  • Irina KHOVRALEVA

    07/15/2022 02:29 PM

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck.... You know the rest. It stinks to high heaven. I cannot comprehend how liberals got all this power to cover up all incriminating stories? Why Republicans are so helpless? Don't get it.

  • Nancy McNeely

    07/15/2022 12:12 PM

    We can not let down on this investigation of Epps. We must pursue all avenues to bring him more and more out in the open of his play in Jan.6.