The fight to save a cross

June 22, 2017 |

A federal judge in Pensacola, Florida, has ordered a 30-foot cross that was erected by the Jaycees in Bayview Park in 1969 (replacing a wooden one that had been there since 1941) to be removed within 30 days after precisely four people backed by two atheist groups filed a complaint. The judge acknowledged that the cross had wide public support and that the Founders would have found this lawsuit “absurd,” and if he were ruling on a blank slate, he would leave it alone. But “the law is the law,” and he was forced by precedent to order it removed as a purely religious symbol on public property.

A spokeswoman for one of the humanist groups that filed the lawsuit said, "The cross was totally unavoidable to park patrons” (did they continually bump into it?) “and to have citizens foot the bill for such a religious symbol is both unfair and unconstitutional.” Question: what bill? It was a gift from the Jaycees that had been standing in the park for 48 years. Moving it out of the park will generate a bill that citizens will have to foot. Perhaps the four atheists whose hearts bleed so for the poor beleaguered taxpayers would like to cover that bill, since they’re the only ones who were offended and they’re the reason it has to be relocated.


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Meanwhile, you might want to visit Arlington National Cemetery and pay your respects to all the fallen heroes before someone files a lawsuit demanding that all the thousands of crosses on public land be removed from their graves.

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  • Anne Skulemowski

    07/11/2017 06:33 PM

    I thought only ISIS did this. Somehow, over the past 4 years, history books have been rewritten and definitions such as religious freedom have been expanded to include witchcraft and atheism. How dod this happen without "Americans" having a vote?

  • Dieter Fischer

    07/04/2017 03:43 AM

    Rainbows in the sky are a religious symbol. If they could, I'm sure those atheists would want that outlawed too! Whatever happened to America's 'In God we trust'?

  • Norma Ross

    06/26/2017 08:48 PM

    If Christians don't stand together to protect our right to be Christian, what will happen to Christianity? When good men or women fail to speak, evil prevails!

  • Cecile Talley

    06/26/2017 06:03 PM

    I live in Florida. This Pensacola Judge must have been the one who tried to keep a kind and harmless creationist, Kent Hovind, locked up even after he served nine years on a trumped up money laundering charge. He finally won his freedom. He did win lots and lots of men to Jesus. I think he is still trying to get his property back.

  • Roxy Fisher

    06/26/2017 07:59 AM

    Unfortunately, Christians have been crucified since time began. They may not be able to feed us to the lions or hang us on a tree, but they do quite well crucifying us with their actions and words. And I'm afraid this is the way it will be until the end of time unless we finally rise up and take our religious rights back. Why is it we're supposed to leave them have their beliefs, but they try to squash ours at every turn.

  • Bob Hathcock

    06/25/2017 10:04 PM

    Hey Mike,
    Many thanks for your comments which are always right on target. Thanks for continuing to remind us of our need to stay faithful and true to our values as Christians, Americans and Family leaders.
    It appears that the media is trying as hard to make sure Mr. Trump's presidency is a failure as they unsuccessfully tried to make Mr. Obama's presidency a success.
    Keep us challenged to work and fight for our Nation.
    Bob

  • Sarah Perry

    06/25/2017 05:58 PM

    I think the city should sell that piece of land to the Jaycees (or some other organization or individual we KNOW will leave it) so the cross can remain.

  • jimmie walker

    06/25/2017 02:14 PM

    Ignored-The comment & request-- I doubt she represents 10% of the people- Jimmie Walker.....

  • Daniel T Winfield

    06/25/2017 09:59 AM

    Our knee-jerk reaction to this is the same as yours, but--... unhappily, there is a but. I am a Christian, an advocate of Jesus Christ, so I am offended at this, but-- ...again, there's a but. That "but" involves a cross erected on publicly owned land, and the atheists are part of that public. So they have a beef, if they want to make it. And they do. Why? Because they do not believe in Jesus Christ, or God his Father, and the evil one who influences them, stirs them up, hates Christ with a bloody passion. So, they are doing his bidding in this. But technically, and legally, the courts do hold that a cross erected on public lands must come down. For me the issue is bigger than anything you mention or I've mentioned here, and it is this--that America as a nation cannot, according to the courts, acknowledge Jesus Christ. And I do not hear the House, Senate, or White House yelling about this. Nor do I see the Supreme Court bothered by it. There must be some legal reason, some Constitutional reason, that will allow the majority who live in America to stop the atheists from taking down monuments to Christ in public parks. I think we need to find it, define it, and take it to the Supreme Court.

  • Richard Casuccio

    06/24/2017 08:30 PM

    Mike you're the best and read every one of ur posts !!! GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU !

  • Craig James

    06/24/2017 08:11 PM

    Careful with your last remark about the Arlington Cemetery, Mike. The thought had already occurred to me sometime back that there could be such an uprising against it, particularly against all of the Christian crosses at that site. I wouldn't want to see that happen, but I see the possibility for such an occurrence. - Craig James, Major, US Army (Retired) (Vietnam Vet.)

  • Rev. Clifford Heineck

    06/24/2017 07:31 PM

    Dear Governor Mike,

    When are we going to stop this asinine and reprehensible nonsense that is tearing apart the fabric of our nation and destroying its historical heritage? While I don't agree with all that has occurred in our country's past, we undoubtedly have the best of any nation in history.

    Our Founding Fathers would not put up with this nonsense, so why should we? I don't gawk at the nudity of today, so why should I protect the faux sensitivity of the liberals who don't understand the First Amendment? They don't have to gawk at the Cross either, nor other symbols (as Moses and Scripture in the Supreme Court) as well.

    I had learned from the Sword of the Lord that an Oil City, PA Council decided to remove William Penn's bench which states: “Men Who Aren’t Governed By God Will Be Governed By Tyrants.” The "council voted unanimously to remove the 'Tyrants Bench' from Justus Park." http://explorevenango.com/tyrants-bench-to-be-removed-from-oil-citys-justus-park-given-back-to-vfw/

    While Thomas Jefferson explained the First Amendment protection to the Baptists of Danbury, CT, the liberals and the Atheists that brought the objection cite the convoluted understanding of Jefferson's use of the term: "Separation of church and state," of which phrase is nowhere in the constitution.

    The American Atheists Legal Center (AALC), which claimed the display likely violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which states that “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion.”

    First, the amendment is not talking about establishing Christianity, which was long established before our nation's founding, but contrary to England's practice of a state church we were not by law to do that. To say that our Government should not mention "God" is absolutely asinine if any historian of mild stripe were to examine what our forefathers meant. Would it not be obvious by the structures throughout governments, the state constitutions and in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution that they, including Jefferson and Franklin, were not afraid to speak up for God in governmental circles?

    ~Pastor Cliff

  • Rita Shoore

    06/24/2017 07:30 PM

    There should be a "Hands Off" National Policy of everything historical whether in the North or South and those things should be protected just like historical buildings, etc. If an atheist doesn't believe in God he must not believe in Him to not believe He exists. So what does it matter to the atheist? They do not believe anyway. Surely the Jaycees have powerful lawyers. They need to go for it. If the judge were smart he would throw out the suit.

    You are an honorable and wonderful person. It is so refreshing to see your beautiful daughter at the White House. Thank you for raising her the way you have.

  • Mary Taveras

    06/24/2017 05:34 PM

    Governor Huckabee, thank you so much! You make things so easy to understand! You are a man of great wisdom and I am so glad God has placed you in such an important position and role. Yeah, what bill? They didn't even do their homework before sticking their foot in their mouth. (You already have my email address - I so appreciate getting your updates etc. Please do not add my address again. Just want to be sure I don't get two of same email! Thank you again!)

  • Nan Wysock

    06/24/2017 04:23 PM

    Thank you for your illuminating and humorous views on these subjects that are so important to We The People! You get the message across beautifully and your humor is contagious! Please don't ever stop, we need you telling us the truth as there are not many outlets in the media for truth these days. I wanted you for President, but am happy to have you and your Godly wisdom any way we can get you! Thanks, Nan

  • Jan Harnish

    06/24/2017 02:02 PM

    Thank you so much for all you do for people in and out of our country. I reside in Pensacola and often visit Bayview Senior Center. The Cross is not visible from the center or surrounding area. Now, if it is taken down, then what about the Washington Monument? George Washington owned slaves. What about Monticello? Jefferson owned slaves too. Can we destroy everything that has Confederate roots? Not to mention the name Washington, D.C. What about that? Can we change the name of our capitol? So, thanks again. I hate this kind of fighting and so wish people could just worship as they want to and leave others alone in their own worship. We cannot take history away. History is not kind for sure in so many, many ways. We need to accept what was and go on with what is now -- this moment in time. Thanks again for all you do.

  • Jim Simpson

    06/24/2017 01:10 PM

    Thanks Gov for your continued illumination of these fiasco's. Isn't it is so sad to see the crumbling of such a wonderful God given country, but it is a testament to His Word and it will all come to pass. He will have the last word.

    You and the other commentators on this site have covered this issue brilliantly.

  • Dean Smith

    06/24/2017 01:07 PM

    Excellently stated! Could you make sure that all of the atheists and their backers get a copy of your well written statement. In the meantime, let's all get together and send them a bill for the relocation of the cross. I will sign it.

  • G Hurla

    06/24/2017 12:45 PM

    This may sound to simple. Sell the cross and the small piece of land it literally sets on to a church for a dollar with the understanding the church will maintain it. Since there's no maintenance and the church will now own the cross and the land under it the atheist bastards can bitch all they want.

  • John Alexander

    06/24/2017 11:53 AM

    Absolutely right Governor! This reminds me of my high school days when a representative from the school board in a very large meeting in the gym announced to us all that because of a complaint by a parent of one student in our school, a class called "Bible as Literature" had to be removed from the course offering. They reasoned that the state funded school could not teach Bible as it was a church matter. A 9th grade girl student spoke in the open forum and commented how her Dad taught Bible each week at Reidsville State Penitentiary in Ga. saying, "The prison is state funded so how is this any different?" The rep stammered and said, "Well I don't know how to respond to that."

  • Ellen Williams

    06/24/2017 11:39 AM

    I agree with you, Governor. We have truly lived to see the words of Jesus come to pass: "The world will hate you; it hated Me first." Keep up the good work. And God bless you.

  • anniebie

    06/24/2017 11:25 AM

    Same happens in Europe.Some Catholic schools are removing crosses.
    Removing SantaKlaas,Zwarte Piet;(he was black because he came through the cheminee..!)
    He was not black in another way.
    We open doors and welcome everybody..they should respect our customs,as we do when we travel or move to another country..

  • Lena Briggs

    06/24/2017 11:16 AM

    I think it will be awesome if it be placed in a more conspicuous location.

  • Marilyn Wojton

    06/24/2017 10:31 AM

    It always baffles me why the few have so much power over the many. This just should not be. Mike, you don't mince words & I like that!

  • Sena McDaniel

    06/24/2017 09:41 AM

    Hello Mike, Thank you for always bring us all the current topics from our world. Pensacola has seen an influx of atheist in recent years guess they are attracted to our beautiful Emerald waters & white sand beaches! It's time for believers to rise up!!! God gave us the ability to be bold in Christ and speak the Truth in Love. It hurts when we see this kind of thing happening. The young lady that is the Humanist Lawyer and behind the fight to have the cross removed is gorgeous. We should pray for her eyes & her heart to be open that she will come to know Jesus Christ as her Lord & savour. Let's lift her and all the other atheist up before God and ask him to save these precious lives that he created. One day this young lawyer will have quite a testimony to share with the world. Blessing Mike Huckabee Pensacola Loves You!!!!

  • Kimberly Trotter

    06/24/2017 09:36 AM

    It is a cruel world we live in today, and the further we remove it from God, the further it is going to fall. I appreciate you bringing these topics to the attention of the American people. Atheists and those who stir up all of this trouble are crazy, unless they have something to fear from something many of them call just a book (the Bible). If you don't believe a word in this book, why the aggression towards it? This country has passed the point of return. Those who are making decisions for us have bought a ticket to hell and they are trying to take us all there with them.

  • Blanche Cockburn

    06/24/2017 07:37 AM

    Yes, why should we be listening to only a few people.....what can we do about this? It angers my being to read and hear about such things as this happening in the great U.S.A.

  • Barry A Mulder

    06/24/2017 07:32 AM

    Why do these people continually go places where they are offended by what is there. Sometimes they really have to look to see thing just so they can be offended. There are places they can go that offer what they want North Korea is one that jumps to mind.

  • G. kirtikar

    06/24/2017 07:18 AM

    On the Day of Judgment this federal judge will have to listen to the verdict from the Most Righteous Judge about his action of 'pleasing atheist' rather than pleasing the Living God.

  • Anthony S

    06/24/2017 03:54 AM

    Great news and information Mike. It's the atheists and leftist cults that satan delights in. It's through them he deceives us and ultimately attempting to destroy us. Already we see how the minds of our young are polluted with atheist and leftist ideology - perversion of love, making gender a matter of choice, rampant homosexuality, breakdown of marriage, etc etc. This is far more sinister and destructive than threats like terrorism. God Bless You and keep up the good fight. AS

  • Dale Tuley

    06/24/2017 02:30 AM

    US Constitution; Article 1, Section 9, sentence 3: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

    Does not the judiciary have to abide by the Constitution? How does the "ex-post-facto" doctrine (which means that somethiing cannot be made illegal after the fact of the time that it happened) bear on these historic cultural/religious symbols?

    It seems that the judge just violated the ex-post facto provision because the cross was erected at a time it was deemed legal. I can understand that in today's politicized climate that the cross's erection would be classified as undesirable and/or illegal. But it was not at the time it was built. So it should be allowed to stay.

    But what do I know.... I am just a citizen who knows how to read and not a brainiac lawyer.

  • Charles Ziegler

    06/24/2017 12:44 AM

    Supposing themselves to be wise they have become fools, saying in their heart "There is no God" I did not say it, God did and HE IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY! How long Lord must we experience lunacy under the guise of the "enlightened few thinking for the majority"?

  • Leopoldo Gutierrez

    06/23/2017 11:58 PM

    Dear Mike Huckabee: I read avidly your daily commentary. I wish you could be back to your show on Fox News. We need to stand up and defend our Christian values and symbols. Do not be overpowered by a few lousy atheists.

  • Anne Lenander

    06/23/2017 11:26 PM

    No worries- one day every knee will bow and declare Jesus Christ is Lord. They can removed every symbol they want, it will not change the out come.

  • Dave Olson

    06/23/2017 11:21 PM

    God is mentioned on public money, in the Declaration as the Creator, numerous historical monuments in Washington, and part of the historical fabric of our country. It is important not to force anyone to follow this faith. We must keep that separation. However because of the above mentioned, should the mention of God or Christian references be discontinued or banned? Contrary to President Obama's statement, America is a Christian nation. And those who choose not to believe this, can still exist here in this country without harassment. However they should not inhibit the viewing of historical references to our Christian foundation of any American citizen. Is there any way this historical aspect of Chritianity of our Nation can be preserved without forcing others to follow it? And if we allow the Christian apsect to change would that not change America and our culture? If we take God out ( as the athiests are trying to do) will that create an adverse effect on our society? It is because of God we that we have our laws and moral compass. Most of us know that without God, we are nothing and will not last as a great nation. History has proven this of other failed nations. There has to be a legal way to preserve and maintain the presence of God in Washington and our country. Maybe all it takes is a strong-hearted judge to use the above reasons to keep these symbols in our nation.

  • Elizabeth Honaker

    06/23/2017 10:11 PM

    Paul said:"But we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles..." (1 Cor.1:23).
    David said: "Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the LORD and against his anointed, saying, 'Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.' The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them. He rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, 'I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain' (Psalm 2: 1-6).

    If these silly people had only read the Book before they listened to the fools!!


  • LaVerne Wisdom

    06/23/2017 10:10 PM

    Makes me furious that 4 people who don't believe in God can cause such turmoil for all the people who DO believe, why should their rights matter over ours always....what can be done about this? Soon there will be no vestiges left behind of people who believed, then the atheists can truly say, "We never were a Christian nation." Sad......

  • June Archer

    06/23/2017 09:55 PM

    Dear Mr Huckabee

    The fight against atheism began many years ago and our court system caved to their demands--Our Country was founded on Christian principles but little by little our Country continues to give into these people. A Cross gives me hope but these people small as they are cannot let go--and the sad thing is they continue to win but they will never win in my home.

    Blessings to all you do--we must continue to pray to win their souls--June

  • Dwight Lucas

    06/23/2017 09:54 PM

    If this nonsense doesn't stop this country is going to be destroyed, it will destroy its self.
    This country was founded on Christian values with the Bible being the # 1 book taught in school for centuries.America has lost its way due to a vast turning away from the Lord. I believe God has taken His divine hand of guidance off of this nation and unless this society repents and turn back to God it will be the end of America.
    America is sick it has a spiritual sickness which unless there is a return back to the God of the Bible there is no hope for America.
    Dwight Lucas

  • Jack macdonald

    06/23/2017 09:39 PM

    It is past time t tell them to go f*** themselves. This is now beyond insanity. It is tyranny of the minority.. Jack

  • Brenda Harden

    06/23/2017 09:12 PM

    What can we do to stop this? I feel like we as Christians should have our voices heard. I don't like protests but is that our only option. How can the voice of 4 be the deciding voice?

  • 'Gma' Karen Winters

    06/23/2017 08:30 PM

    GOD Continue to Bless You, Sir, and America!!!! "Every knee shall bow and every tongue Confess, that JESUS CHRIST Is LORD"!!! I'd hate to be those four, (or any of the other of the arrogant liberals) on That Day!

  • Terri

    06/23/2017 08:15 PM

    What is the matter with our country! We can NOT bow down to every complaint from every small group! American was founded on a christian foundation. Exactly HOW was that cross HURTING anyone?

  • David J Eddis

    06/23/2017 08:12 PM

    I think we'd be better off if we got back to worrying about offending God !

  • Agnes O'Brien

    06/23/2017 08:06 PM

    There are not only crosses in Arlington Cemetery but Stars of David on the Jewish heroes buried there. Stop being so negative and start honoring these heroes whatever their beliefs. You are here because of them.

  • Judith Swanson

    06/23/2017 08:04 PM

    I do not understand how people who do not believe in God, can object to two pieces of wood coming together. (Or cement or whatever!) If you don't believe in God than a cross has no meaning to you. It's just like looking at a fire hydrant, or manhole cover, or sign, or log along the road. So how can defense be made that something you do not believe in "offends" you & you want it taken down? Personally, I think you should be taken down - not in the literal sense! I'm so tired of 2, 4 or 6 people trying to run our country or change it. If you don't like it get hell out!!!

  • Scott W. Swope

    06/23/2017 08:01 PM

    Gov. Huckabee,
    I am writing you from Neosho, MO. where we are having the same issue with a few citizens that do not wish to be known have had a out of state organization sending a letter of complaint about our white cross that lies on a hillside in one of our parks. They said that four citizens have complained that our public park should not have religious symblous. Our cross was built by one man many decades ago to backdrop the outdoor stage that is used in the Easter sunrise service where a choir sings. Don't people understand that the founding fathers wouldn't think of founding a government without the influence of God, however they did not want government sponcered religion which they had in England at that time. There is a big difference. How do we stop people getting there feelings hurt by a static symbol, when they can just turn their heads and walk away. Help, the snowflakes are trying to take over.

  • Ronnie B. Jones, Sr.

    06/23/2017 07:55 PM

    I was one of those Jaycees to who worked to have that cross erected. I was not a Christian at that time but remember attending many Easter Sunrise Services there. I'm proud to say that that bunch of Jaycees also started the Republican "cause" in Pensacola. I went to school with Federal Judge Roger Vinson and he is a righteous Christian man. My only question is when will some judge go against some of these crazy "PRECEDENTS" and set a new precedent.(Precedents are confused with a real law in many cases)

  • Patrick koch

    06/23/2017 07:13 PM

    This is ridiculous if it was a statue of Alah it would be ok I suppose ! Love your daily e mails ! Why are the libs so hell bent on crushing Christian values and supporting Muslim ones I have had enough of this nonsense and wonder how much farther they left can go I think there is no bounds.

  • Tracy Yarborough

    06/23/2017 07:09 PM

    As I see it, the problem is that the rule of the federal government has and is overstepping the rule of local and state. I don't have a problem with seperation of church and state (other than the fact that there is NO such mention of that in our founding documents), but I do have a problem with a group of only a few people telling a community of people what it can and cannot do to appease the MAJORITY.
    Is there not something that can be done about this with legislation of some sort? How long will it be before they show up at Arlington (like Mike said) and begin tearing that down too?
    I hope that the people in that (and every) community will stand up for what is morally right and if they can't have a cross on public land because of our misguided judicial system, then the supporters need to form a land trust, build a HUGE cross on it and tell the opposers that Jesus
    loves them in spite of their hatred. I hate to think of how many people are going to face judgement and be so upset that they didn't take heed of the Word of God while they had the chance.
    Praying for ALL Americans and ALL people to harken to the signs of the coming of the One True Living God....Jesus the Christ!