October 17, 2019

The WASHINGTON EXAMINER has some good sources inside Adam Schiff’s hearing room, so we’re getting an idea of what has been going on in there. What a travesty. It’s easy to see why Democrats aren’t allowing it to take place in public, let alone with video cameras, as Schiff's strongarm tactics for getting the testimony he wants are on full display.

This is particularly the case for former U.S. Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker in his testimony on October 4.

In her report the day of the hearing, which took place in a secure room in the U.S. Capitol, Susan Ferrechio said that “sources familiar with Volker’s testimony” told her that the former diplomat “repeatedly” rejected assertions by Schiff that Trump was pushing for a quid pro quo in his July 25 phone call with President Zelensky: Look, you investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and we’ll give you aid. The source said that Volker testified that the Americans never raised the issue and that the Ukrainians never felt pressure.

Of course, that didn’t stop Democrats from leaking selected and highly misleading text messages to make it look as though we were withholding security aid to get help with a political campaign, and it certainly didn’t stop fatuous California Rep. Eric Swalwell from running to microphones that very day and saying. “We saw further evidence that there was a shadow shakedown going on, and the lead deputy for the President was Rudy Giuliani.” He added that the testimony provided “more and more evidence” that Trump used the power of his office to “leverage help from an ally” to benefit him politically.

My goodness, that sounds serious.

But not so fast. As Volker had said in his opening statement, the Ukrainians asked HIM to put them in contact with Giuliani, not vice versa. And Mark Meadows said after the hearing, “There was definitely no quid pro quo, and it was asked 20 different times. The American people need to see the transcripts.” Well, we haven’t seen the transcripts in the days following the interview, but we do have the next best thing: an apparent leak of them to Byron York. And from this material, we know not only the words of Volker’s testimony –- there appears to have been no shakedown whatsoever –- but also the sleazy strategy being tried by Schiff to elicit the response he wants.

York’s report from Wednesday shows just how hard Schiff was trying to get Volker to say that the Ukrainians felt pressured by Trump to investigate the Bidens, specifically through the withholding of U.S. military aid. He kept asking the question in different ways, and Volker kept denying it in different ways. As it turns out, Volker didn’t even know that Trump had mentioned the Bidens during the call until the transcript of that conversation was released on September 25. He couldn’t deny that they felt pressured, of course; he could speak only for himself, but he had never been told anything about that, and he maintained that if they had, they would have brought it up with him. To his knowledge, the Ukrainians were not aware at that time that the aid had been suspended. And he said his first discussions of the issue with any Ukrainian official was on August 28 and 29, well after the July 25 phone call. He himself learned of it on July 18, one week before the phone call. He wondered about it but didn’t learn the reason for it.

His testimony was clear and specific: “The first conversation I had was when the diplomatic adviser to President Zelensky, Vadym Pristaico, I believe it was, texted me a copy of the POLITICO article about the hold on assistance. So I had had many conversations in the months prior to that, and this did not come up from him to me, which makes me believe that this was not on his radar until that time when he saw the article.”

That wasn’t good enough for Schiff, who is clearly a man on a mission. (Call it MISSION: IMPEACHABLE.)  When he didn’t get the testimony he wanted right off the bat, his strategy was first to gain Volker’s agreement on a general statement, asking Volker to agree that “no President of the United States should ever ask a foreign leader to help intervene in a U.S. election.”

“I agree with that,” Volker said.

Then Schiff led his witness into a hypothetical scenario, asking, “And that would be particularly egregious if it was done in the context of withholding foreign assistance?” 

Volker didn’t let himself be drawn into a hypothetical, saying. “We’re getting now into, you know, a conflation of these things that I didn’t think was actually there.

Dead end for Schiff! So, again, he asked another general question, asking him to agree that “if it’s inappropriate for a President to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a President was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country.”

Again –- and surely to Schiff’s dismay –- Volker refused to be drawn into a hypothetical and kept to the specifics of his own experience. “I can’t really speak to that,” he said. “My understanding of the security assistance issue is---”

Schiff cut him off and pressed him to answer. “Why can’t you speak to that, ambassador? You’re a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a President would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand how significant that would be, correct?”

Remember that Volker had already testified that to his knowledge, the Ukrainians weren’t yet aware that the aid had been withheld. He sort-of played along, saying, “I can understand how that would be significant.”

So Schiff sensed an opening and tried to blur the timeline: “And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the President had asked of them, wouldn’t it?”

Volker had already testified that as far as he was aware, they DIDN’T know. He tried again to make his point, beginning “So again, congressman, I don’t believe---” but was cut off again by Schiff.

“It’s a pretty straightforward question,” Schiff said.

“But I don’t believe the Ukrainians were aware of the assistance being held up---” Volker said, interrupted once again by Schiff.

“They became aware of it.”

“They became aware later, but I don’t believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied.”

You get the idea. There was much more of this volleying back and forth, with Schiff trying every which way to get Volker to go along with his made-up scenario. Volker never did. Clearly, his testimony did not support the point Schiff wanted to establish –- because Schiff was pushing a scenario that NEVER HAPPENED –- but that didn’t stop Schiff from relentlessly pursuing a flawed theory and for Swalwell to run to the microphones afterwards to do what he does best: lie.


Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressure from Trump


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  • Michael Moody

    10/19/2019 12:00 PM

    Dear Mike:

    I have another suggestion for you. This is more general. I don't think we need to concern ourselves with President Trump. Like someone who has been bitten by a vampire, the blood lust has infected the media. It is a lust mixed of arrogance, greed for power, and a joy at bringing others (bad guys) to ruin. I think that the next time a Republican seriously threatens the party of National Socialism AKA the Democratic Party elite, they will get the same news mismanagement treatment. Disinformation is to the ether as excess CO2 is to the atmosphere.

    What I propose is a serious effort to require any media company with a strong internet presence to post a fidelity bond. I call this bond the Privacy Assurance Bond (PAB). The size of the required bond would be scaled to reported revenues in the internet segment of the business. This bond would be sold by commercial insurance companies and the cost would be according to the magnitude of the exposure and the number of claims.

    In defined circumstances, it would apply to breaches of the privacy of politicians and political campaign contributors. If I was writing the bill, I would make sure that it went to the relevant committee with provisions that would ensure Julian Castro's campaign committee paid a price for publishing the names and addresses of Trump campaign contributors.

    But it would be beneficial to others. It would even cover violations of the privacy of Hollywood celebrities.

    Your thoughts would be appreciated.

  • James K. McCollum

    10/18/2019 02:54 PM

    Adama Schiff is despicable as he spouts out lie after lie and nobody does anything about his lying. He should be thrown out of his position in the House of Representatives. He is pathetic, but that is true of Pelosi and too many democrats. Their party used to be admirable, but no more. They are riding on hate of Trump and don't do anything for the country. They should shut the doors and go away!

  • sherry haddox

    10/18/2019 09:28 AM

    something needs to be done to get rid of him. Poison.

  • Jerry

    10/18/2019 07:54 AM

    Troop withdrawal what do people not understand about it? The people on the Left and Right complain we are leaving a group on their own True they knew the day was coming and it is here. What have you done to be ready for this day. It is the same as people dependent on Federal funds to become a generational way to live it is the same way for these groups dependent on the US for a generation of security when do you grow to be able to care for yourself. People condemn our country for its freedoms people want everything free if your not willing to achieve your goals with honesty you get Syria Turkey Iran Russia China and all the miserable ways of life. Do the other countries live by the 10 Commandments the Golden Rule I don't think so and as we wander away from these laws and rules we will become the same as those countries. Think about people seriously Trump's Administration want's peace and and everyone to have a life that does not include poverty I think thats the way our Creator drew it up. MAGA KAG


    10/17/2019 10:26 PM

    In the end this will be another waste of millions in pursuit of nothing. It appears that this is all democrats in the House know how to do - nothing.
    Thank God the President still has the economy purring along without their help.

  • Gary Stilwell

    10/17/2019 08:57 PM

    adam shiffless has a long history of being adept at confusing issues to show his self-righteous indignation and diversionary tactics to promote his position--the man is not stupid. he wouldn't be where he is if he were. He fools the folks who elected him just as he attempts to fool the rest of the Nation--the sad fact is pelosi seems to ascribe to the same tactics--problem is neither of them have the authority to do what they are doing---READ THE CONSTITUITION!!!!! Last night I checked--there are NO affidavits by ANY HR members that certify they are relinquishing their right to vote and put their rights in the hands of the 'committee' or 'committees' doing this inquiry. ----Unconstitutional--period---(and if pelosi claims otherwise-due to some spurious judges' ruling--I would offer here that that judge was paid to render the decision--

  • Anita Ward

    10/17/2019 08:21 PM

    The democrats need a serious and permanent time out because they are behaving like spoiled brats and bullies! Rational adults would be honorable and serve the citizens of our great United States, instead they are making a mockery the House! I am so sick of the mess they have made and still continue making more messes, even tho’ they have failed in every previous attempts get out President out of office! They are little spoiled BRATS and we NEED TERM LIMITS! I will never vote for a Democrat again!

  • Jay H Mohler

    10/17/2019 08:06 PM

    Adam Schiff needs to be impeached for his terrible behavior.

  • judith jakub

    10/17/2019 06:17 PM

    Adam schiff needs to be redacted and sent to a leper colony, to STAY FOREVER. He, along with the whole DNC must be defeated and banished to Venezuela for the rest of their God given lives with pelosi in the lead.

  • Marti Dorsey

    10/17/2019 05:13 PM

    Thank you for sharing your view and knowledge of these sad events transpiring in DC./
    I really enjoy your TV program
    on Saturday! I feel that you are reaching Patriotic Christians
    with the truth ( with humor!)
    about what’s going on, and
    providing a great variety of
    guests, and music. I appreciate
    Marti Dorsey, Rome, GA

  • Rick Augustine

    10/17/2019 04:02 PM

    Schiff is my main reason for staying behind Trump. Democrats continue going no where, but Trump keeps finding ways to move forward. No I don’t agree with everything Trump does but I agree far more than disagree.

  • Gail

    10/17/2019 03:23 PM

    Isn't there any way to legally stop these impeachment least from behind closed doors? This is disgusting! Let's start impeachment proceedings against Pelosi, Schumer Nadler & Schiff!!

  • Verda Thompson

    10/17/2019 03:16 PM

    It is time to stand up against these out of control baboons in Congress. Stand up be counted and pray

  • Patrick McClurkin

    10/17/2019 02:49 PM

    Well, this isn't funny or the least bit interesting anymore! President Trump should call for U.S. Marshals to immediately arrest Pelosi and Schiff and charge them with treason!

  • Linda Meyer

    10/17/2019 02:13 PM

    This is about Obummer care. I retired at 63 in 2014. Imhad to get Obamacare untili turned 65. I lived in GA, but my doctors were in Chattanooga. At that time, you had to be treated in the state you lived in. So i had to see my doctors as a “self pay”. And I had a $6400 deductible.
    Obamacare is the biggest lie!!!!! So i was paying for insurance I couldn’t even use because there were no doctors near me in GA that accepted it. And now medicare isn’t cheap either! Most people think it’s free, but it’s not. And my husband goes to the VA medical center. They just started lumping medicare with VA benefits and it is a billing nightmare for the VA. His doctor told him he can thank Bernie Sanders for that! All democrats do is screw things up.

  • Patricia Barilow

    10/17/2019 01:46 PM

    I am amazed at how President Trump can keep doing the good job that he is doing with all this b.s. going on. He is doing this for no pay besides. Those across the aisle that are doing all they can to hinder him and not doing the job they were sent to Washington to do...should not be getting a salary at all...then maybe they would buckle down and do the job they were elected to do.

  • Rafael A Salaz

    10/17/2019 01:45 PM

    Adam Schiff should not be allowed to keep his lying and wasting time along with Nancy Pelosi and her group. It is plain to see , if you have common sense that its about impeaching Trump at what ever the cost , for no good reason . It's all fabricated accusations , its the biggest lying from the Democrats in all history . They should all be put in Prison .

  • Bobby Scott

    10/17/2019 01:30 PM

    How can these people continue to get away with these actions? I've had my fill. They have no respect for the law or the American people. For nearly three years they have wasted tax payers money with their phoney accusations and have not made any effort to do the job they were elected to do. They all need to be fired if not jailed for the money they have stolen from America with all their antics.

  • Victoria DeLacy

    10/17/2019 01:06 PM

    Schiff lied so many times that he's about on par now with Bill Clinton for total lack of credibility. It seems to me that he and his fellows suffering from extreme TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) deserve to be SUED for slander and defamation of character. DNC's will only be likely to stop the insanity when some in their ranks are held duly ACCOUNTABLE for their misdeeds. Let the law suits begin. Our excellent President deserves a pat on the back, NOT a stab in it!

  • Norma Blatz

    10/17/2019 01:04 PM

    I thought the Ukrainian President already acknowledged personally that he never felt pressure? When are these people ever going to be held accountable for lying and the sad part is that the media repeats these lies and makes up more and spreads them to the "low information" voters who just take at face value what they read/hear and never check to see if it's true. The media should have it's immunity from law suits taken away.

  • Phil Stocks

    10/17/2019 01:03 PM

    Adam Schiff makes Benedict Arnold look like a choir boy. Schiff is the one who needs to be impeached and tried for treason. Leading a coup against a duly elected president is a prime example of treason. Adam Schiff, you are guilty!!!

  • Vernon Thompson

    10/17/2019 12:26 PM

    It should warm your heart to hear how proud Speaker Pelosi is of the fine work that the lying worthless Adam Schiff is doing!!!

  • lynne j jones

    10/17/2019 12:20 PM

    Schiff is the one that needs to go, he's a straight up liar.

  • Harriet Arrasmith

    10/17/2019 12:09 PM

    The airways are so poisoned that it's hard to listen or watch anything these days. The public, let alone our leadership, is going to implode from all the acid being produced. We are not the only country under attack by such evil forces, ie England. I just pray for God's will to be done.. and it will be. Thank you, Mike.

  • Carol Kloberdanz

    10/17/2019 12:00 PM

    God took Cummings. He can take Schiff too! One breath! The Bible clearly tells us not to touch His anointed. God put Donald Trump in office and no one can take him out! Not even Schiff! Schiff is an enemy of God, our country, us and our President.