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June 22, 2021
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Gordon Chang, expert on China and author of THE GREAT U.S. - CHINA TECH WAR, appeared on TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT Monday to speak further on the likelihood that Dong Jingwei, the 57-year-old head of counterintelligence for the Chinese Ministry of State Security, had flown from Hong Kong to California on February 10 and defected to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, bringing with him a treasure trove of secret information.

Chang reiterated that he thinks the story is true.

China is denying that this happened, of course, and both BEIJING DAILY and the Hong Kong publication SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST have reported that Dong is in China doing whatever spooky things he normally does in the land of Chinese spooks, such as giving presentations at spy-catcher seminars.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3137958/top-chinese-spy-catcher-dong-jingwei-warns-agents-look-out

Chang does not believe their reports, as “China has every reason in the world to parade this guy in front of the cameras. That would squelch all sorts of rumors that are damaging to the regime. Now, China hasn’t done that, and that to me says that we have him, and that he, in fact, defected.”


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Incidentally, the SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST story makes reference to the “new anti-espionage regulation released in April” that applies to “not only Chinese government departments, but also social groups and businesses, supplemented with lists of Chinese entities that are assigned counter-espionage responsibilities.” This onerous new law has received very little press in the United States, so I'm taking the opportunity here to describe it. Under this law, once entities been designated by the government, they're required to watch for and prevent foreign espionage activity. They must “vet and train personnel, particularly ahead of foreign trips, after which they must be debriefed about any national security issues.” This law treats even universities and private businesses as if they’re “sensitive government agencies.”

https://abc17news.com/news/national-world/2021/04/26/china-targets-foreign-spies-and-hostile-forces-with-new-anti-espionage-rules/

More on this soon, but for now, back to the Chang interview. Tucker brought up the fact that the media are suddenly changing their tune on the origin of the virus, as if they knew...somehow...they could no longer get away with spouting their original fairy tale about bat soup. And Chang noted what seems to be a similar shift of opinion among officials of the Biden administration. This story out of Australia mentions that same shift as evidence that the defection probably happened.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/chinese-spy-dong-jingwei-defects-to-the-west-while-offering-covid-secrets/news-story/d61277b586d043c6942bcce7b8b70d44

Chang said this could be due to any of a number of things, perhaps political pressure, but he thinks it’s because they now have evidence of a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Even more important is the information that the Chinese military was working with that lab as part of its bioweapons program.

As for China intentionally releasing the virus, Chang believes this scenario is possible but unlikely, given that they didn’t yet have a vaccine. He thinks it was a mistake, and that China “wasn’t able to contain it.” On the other hand, he noted that while foreigners typically believe the leak was accidental, Chinese nationals are more likely to think it was released on purpose. They know their government all too well.

We came across another report from that same Australian news outlet that provides a lot of context for this alleged defection. It says that no “convincing” photo of Dong has been released since last September, and the one that's purported to be him isn't persuading anyone. This story also includes some intriguing background on Dong’s daughter.

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/who-is-dong-jingwei-why-us-china-wont-prove-they-have-spymaster/news-story/dc431d5bd5c547bae82c71e769cbc29f

All we’d seen in the press about Dong Yang was that she'd been studying at a California university, but now there’s more: She’s reportedly the ex-wife of Alibaba executive Jiang Fan. Alibaba, an international tech firm, has been in the crosshairs of the CCP in recent months. The company is being scrutinized for alleged “antitrust” and “corruption” issues. Jack Ma, Alibaba’s CEO, “disappeared” for several weeks earlier this year.

Since that time, Ma has reportedly “embraced supervision.” (Ah, there’s a euphemism for you.) And he rarely appears in public or makes public statements. The CCP appears to be cracking down in general on billionaires and academics. Interesting case in point: at the same time we were hearing denials of a nuclear accident of some kind at the China Taishan power plant, one of its leading nuclear scientists, Vice President of Harbin Engineering University Zhang Zhijian, reportedly “fell” from his building. No details were given.

Another billionaire, the chairman of a Chinese high-tech firm, got in hot water and was ordered to “keep a low profile” after publishing a historic poem as part of a media campaign. This poem was critical of an ancient emperor. In China, criticism of emperors is banned on social media, as it could be interpreted as criticism of their current leader-for-life, Xi Jinping.

(Wow, you thought censorship on American social media was bad! On the other hand, this story gives us a peek at just how bad it can get, and almost certainly WILL get if we don’t weaken the power of Big Tech.)

Another billionaire, this one in agriculture, lost control of his business after being arrested over a minor property dispute. He’s since been charged with “seeking quarrels and provoking trouble.”

So our speculation is that this kind of crackdown by the CCP might have had some impact on Dong’s daughter, considering her ties, and might even have something to do with the defection. Just a hypothesis. We’ll see if anyone else makes this connection.

I’ll leave you with the words being (falsely?) attributed to Dong from that seminar, as they relate to the way China is cracking down on business moguls and, ironically, might even describe what Dong himself has done by defecting: “In particular, some individuals are willing to be ‘internal traitors,’ secretly colluding with foreign spies and intelligence agencies and hostile forces to engage in anti-China activities. Individuals ‘act behind the scenes’ and send funds to hostile forces through illegal channels to support anti-China activities. These ‘traitors’ and behind-the-scenes gold masters’ have severely endangered the country’s political security. They will eventually be nailed to the pillar of shame in history.”

Translation: we need to keep this man, and his daughter, safe.

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  • Jim nall

    06/22/2021 02:51 PM

    Excellent info. When will we receive direct testimony about who when where how covid leaked from when lab?
    Any info on India variant of covid that just surfaced on Missouri university in Springfield mo?

  • Richard Jones

    06/22/2021 02:51 PM

    I still don't trust this defector.

  • Chuck Kinney

    06/22/2021 02:49 PM

    Good to know!

  • Terry G VanHouten

    06/22/2021 02:39 PM

    We do need to protect these people, but who do we really trust to do that ? Biden's DOJ ? The FBI ? The CIA ? We know for certain that these agencies plus personnel within our military contain Obama loyalists that may be named characters in the information and could wish to silence this man as much as the CCP.

  • James Evart

    06/22/2021 02:13 PM

    Keeping Dong and his daughter safe is of extreme importance and his choosing the DIA tells us which agency should cut itself free of undue influences from other China compromised US agencies in doing so, including the White House.
    Doesn't $10 trillion seem a little light in world reoperations by China?
    Is it only me or does it not seem strange that China's influence in the 2020 elections was absent from Dong's multi-tera bite information data base?

  • Floyd A Unger

    06/22/2021 02:03 PM

    Interesting….?? Why do we have to depend on the Australia media for the news?

  • Shona Christy

    06/22/2021 01:40 PM

    I also, imediately, want to err on the side of caution.
    That's was my nice way of saying..I TRUST NOONE. & it seems. to be wayyyy too good to be true. I honestly don't believe there's ANY way they would let him leave that country with any Information AT ALL..and if they did..
    IT WOULD BE A TOTAL SET UP.
    AND ONLY WHAT THEY WOULD WANT...THE US TO THINK.
    China...has been so far ahead of the US by way of playing the long game...spies, etc. for so many years. I would believe NONE of it..as well as looking behind every rock to see what was really going on behind the scenes...quite possible they have another play In motion and this is the diversion to occupy us yet again!

  • Tk

    06/22/2021 01:35 PM

    Red State broke this story a few weeks ago. They have been doing awesome reports on this situation. Thanks for your thoughts on how this all connects.

  • Eugene Gee

    06/22/2021 01:33 PM

    Thank God that the DIA did not inform the State Department, CIA, or FBI that they had the defector! The anti-American deep state socialists in the US State Department, CIA, and FBI would have given him away and he would probably be dead now. Praise God that this agency of the US government is still pro-America.

  • Julie McCormack

    06/22/2021 01:27 PM

    No way could anyone trust China Joe Biden and his marxist WH to keep Chinese defectors safe. Would that President Trump was at the helm. Praying we are delivered from anti-God, anti-American democrat hands.